Sailing Ship - change of plan

*David Martin* · August 4th, 2008, 04:06 PM

I have just spoken to Grahame and Lamlash will not be available this weekend. Grahame was carrying various repairs and also some modifications for us but due to unforseen circumstances it will not be possible to complete these before the trip. I will send further details by email later.

Outcast is available, but obviously is quite a different platform.
We therefore have no accommodation, no compressor, cannot store J's and can only do one dive per trip. I don't think the logistics of trying to do two dives per day is viable given the change in plans, so I think we're looking at a single dive per day Friday-Monday.

We'd obviously achieve rather less in four dives than we would in seven, and I wonder whether its worth spending just four dives on the Sailing ship as opposed to doing a "normal" weekend. We fairly urgently need to decide what to do so that we can book/cancel accommodation/gas etc

The long range forecast is reasonable, and since we've all kept a space in our diaries I think we should still head down (subject to finding accommodation) and make a go of the weekend.

Please let me know your thoughts - we need to sort this out quickly. I'm sure there will be a divergence of views and I apologise to everyone in advance both for the situation and for the fact that what we do unlikely to be everyone's first choice of alternative option.

Happy to discuss - you should all have my mobile # - please leave a message if I don't answer.

David

*JGrogan* · August 4th, 2008, 04:24 PM

Hi David,
There is a question mark over my being able to make it for work reasons.
With Lamlash now unavailable and limited to 1 dive per day, I think I'll now pass. Let me know how much and your bank details and I'll wire you the money.
Best,
John.

Quote: (Originally Posted by David Martin)

I have just spoken to Grahame and Lamlash will not be available this weekend. Grahame was carrying various repairs and also some modifications for us but due to unforseen circumstances it will not be possible to complete these before the trip. I will send further details by email later.

Outcast is available, but obviously is quite a different platform.
We therefore have no accommodation, no compressor, cannot store J's and can only do one dive per trip. I don't think the logistics of trying to do two dives per day is viable given the change in plans, so I think we're looking at a single dive per day Friday-Monday.

We'd obviously achieve rather less in four dives than we would in seven, and I wonder whether its worth spending just four dives on the Sailing ship as opposed to doing a "normal" weekend. We fairly urgently need to decide what to do so that we can book/cancel accommodation/gas etc

The long range forecast is reasonable, and since we've all kept a space in our diaries I think we should still head down (subject to finding accommodation) and make a go of the weekend.

Please let me know your thoughts - we need to sort this out quickly. I'm sure there will be a divergence of views and I apologise to everyone in advance both for the situation and for the fact that what we do unlikely to be everyone's first choice of alternative option.

Happy to discuss - you should all have my mobile # - please leave a message if I don't answer.

David

GLOC · August 4th, 2008, 04:37 PM

David,

I can think of 2 thinks straight off.

Availability of accomodation in Weymouth/Portland being as it is the summer holidays. I think this will drive the outcome to be honest.

Do we need the J's at all? If people had planned to bring 2 x dives worth of gas, we would only need to get 2 x fills from Scimitar diving over the weekend. Or would you plan to get them from Old Harbour divers?

*David Martin* · August 4th, 2008, 04:47 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC)

Availability of accomodation in Weymouth/Portland being as it is the summer holidays. I think this will drive the outcome to be honest.

This will be a *big* factor. However, I wanted to canvas opinions before people started booking things piecemeal.

Quote:

Do we need the J's at all? If people had planned to bring 2 x dives worth of gas, we would only need to get 2 x fills from Scimitar diving over the weekend. Or would you plan to get them from Old Harbour divers?

We need to cancel the Js. I would plan to get gas from Scimitar (assuming the plan is that we go diving). We'll probably need a little more than 2 fills, as not everyone was quite able to bring 2 fills and those of us doing T2 dives would probably be better off switching to using a full set of doubles and no bottom gas stage each dive.

Gareth - as you ordered the gas, can you phone Helena/Smudge to cancel the J's and also warn them that we may be looking for fills from their filling station?

David

GLOC · August 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by David Martin)

Gareth - as you ordered the gas, can you phone Helena/Smudge to cancel the J's and also warn them that we may be looking for fills from their filling station?

David

Will do.

Andy Kerslake · August 4th, 2008, 04:58 PM

David

Can't we still use Lamlash as a floating platform for accomodation etc, or is it now chartered out elsewhere.

I think this will only work if we can use Lamlash this way, at one dive per day, and a maximum of four dives I think we would probably be wastting our time/money.

Andy

Andy Kerslake · August 4th, 2008, 05:07 PM

David

If Lamlash is a complete no go, then I think the best bet is to cancel.

Andy

PS We would need to let Ricardo know, unless of course some of you still want to go diving at the weekend. Ricardo arrives Thursday evening.

*Clare Gledhill* · August 4th, 2008, 05:12 PM

I'm happy to dive still - although happier to dive wrecks elsewhere like a normal DIR UK weekend.

It would be nice not to lose the whole weekend's diving - for some of us it was all we had planned in august (although with the trips I've done I guess I shouldn't complain

).

GLOC · August 4th, 2008, 05:16 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Clare Gledhill)

I'm happy to dive still - although happier to dive wrecks elsewhere like a normal DIR UK weekend.

It would be nice not to lose the whole weekend's diving - for some of us it was all we had planned in august (although with the trips I've done I guess I shouldn't complain

).

Agreed, just need to find some accomodation!!

*David Martin* · August 4th, 2008, 05:23 PM

Lamlash is a complete no go. The areas under repair include the floor in the galley/rear cabin and the stairwell to the main accommodation area.

I would like to go diving so long as we can find accommodation and so long as enough people want to go that it makes sense to run a boat.

David

August 4th, 2008, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
David Martin(Offline) Instructor candidate Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, E11 Posts: 419	Sailing Ship - change of plan I have just spoken to Grahame and Lamlash will not be available this weekend. Grahame was carrying various repairs and also some modifications for us but due to unforseen circumstances it will not be possible to complete these before the trip. I will send further details by email later. Outcast is available, but obviously is quite a different platform. We therefore have no accommodation, no compressor, cannot store J's and can only do one dive per trip. I don't think the logistics of trying to do two dives per day is viable given the change in plans, so I think we're looking at a single dive per day Friday-Monday. We'd obviously achieve rather less in four dives than we would in seven, and I wonder whether its worth spending just four dives on the Sailing ship as opposed to doing a "normal" weekend. We fairly urgently need to decide what to do so that we can book/cancel accommodation/gas etc The long range forecast is reasonable, and since we've all kept a space in our diaries I think we should still head down (subject to finding accommodation) and make a go of the weekend. Please let me know your thoughts - we need to sort this out quickly. I'm sure there will be a divergence of views and I apologise to everyone in advance both for the situation and for the fact that what we do unlikely to be everyone's first choice of alternative option. Happy to discuss - you should all have my mobile # - please leave a message if I don't answer. David

August 4th, 2008, 04:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,962	David, I can think of 2 thinks straight off. Availability of accomodation in Weymouth/Portland being as it is the summer holidays. I think this will drive the outcome to be honest. Do we need the J's at all? If people had planned to bring 2 x dives worth of gas, we would only need to get 2 x fills from Scimitar diving over the weekend. Or would you plan to get them from Old Harbour divers? __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

August 4th, 2008, 04:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,962	Quote: (Originally Posted by David Martin) Gareth - as you ordered the gas, can you phone Helena/Smudge to cancel the J's and also warn them that we may be looking for fills from their filling station? David Will do. __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

August 4th, 2008, 05:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
Clare Gledhill(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Pacman Champion! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,540	I'm happy to dive still - although happier to dive wrecks elsewhere like a normal DIR UK weekend. It would be nice not to lose the whole weekend's diving - for some of us it was all we had planned in august (although with the trips I've done I guess I shouldn't complain ). __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

August 4th, 2008, 05:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,962	Quote: (Originally Posted by Clare Gledhill) I'm happy to dive still - although happier to dive wrecks elsewhere like a normal DIR UK weekend. It would be nice not to lose the whole weekend's diving - for some of us it was all we had planned in august (although with the trips I've done I guess I shouldn't complain ). Agreed, just need to find some accomodation!! __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

August 4th, 2008, 04:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
JGrogan(Offline) GUE Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 439	Hi David, There is a question mark over my being able to make it for work reasons. With Lamlash now unavailable and limited to 1 dive per day, I think I'll now pass. Let me know how much and your bank details and I'll wire you the money. Best, John. Quote: (Originally Posted by David Martin) I have just spoken to Grahame and Lamlash will not be available this weekend. Grahame was carrying various repairs and also some modifications for us but due to unforseen circumstances it will not be possible to complete these before the trip. I will send further details by email later. Outcast is available, but obviously is quite a different platform. We therefore have no accommodation, no compressor, cannot store J's and can only do one dive per trip. I don't think the logistics of trying to do two dives per day is viable given the change in plans, so I think we're looking at a single dive per day Friday-Monday. We'd obviously achieve rather less in four dives than we would in seven, and I wonder whether its worth spending just four dives on the Sailing ship as opposed to doing a "normal" weekend. We fairly urgently need to decide what to do so that we can book/cancel accommodation/gas etc The long range forecast is reasonable, and since we've all kept a space in our diaries I think we should still head down (subject to finding accommodation) and make a go of the weekend. Please let me know your thoughts - we need to sort this out quickly. I'm sure there will be a divergence of views and I apologise to everyone in advance both for the situation and for the fact that what we do unlikely to be everyone's first choice of alternative option. Happy to discuss - you should all have my mobile # - please leave a message if I don't answer. David

August 4th, 2008, 04:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
David Martin(Offline) Instructor candidate Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, E11 Posts: 419	Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC) Availability of accomodation in Weymouth/Portland being as it is the summer holidays. I think this will drive the outcome to be honest. This will be a big factor. However, I wanted to canvas opinions before people started booking things piecemeal. Quote: Do we need the J's at all? If people had planned to bring 2 x dives worth of gas, we would only need to get 2 x fills from Scimitar diving over the weekend. Or would you plan to get them from Old Harbour divers? We need to cancel the Js. I would plan to get gas from Scimitar (assuming the plan is that we go diving). We'll probably need a little more than 2 fills, as not everyone was quite able to bring 2 fills and those of us doing T2 dives would probably be better off switching to using a full set of doubles and no bottom gas stage each dive. Gareth - as you ordered the gas, can you phone Helena/Smudge to cancel the J's and also warn them that we may be looking for fills from their filling station? David

August 4th, 2008, 04:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Andy Kerslake(Offline) Wreck and Cave Diver Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 93	David Can't we still use Lamlash as a floating platform for accomodation etc, or is it now chartered out elsewhere. I think this will only work if we can use Lamlash this way, at one dive per day, and a maximum of four dives I think we would probably be wastting our time/money. Andy

August 4th, 2008, 05:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
Andy Kerslake(Offline) Wreck and Cave Diver Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 93	David If Lamlash is a complete no go, then I think the best bet is to cancel. Andy PS We would need to let Ricardo know, unless of course some of you still want to go diving at the weekend. Ricardo arrives Thursday evening.

August 4th, 2008, 05:23 PM	#10 (permalink)
David Martin(Offline) Instructor candidate Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London, E11 Posts: 419	Lamlash is a complete no go. The areas under repair include the floor in the galley/rear cabin and the stairwell to the main accommodation area. I would like to go diving so long as we can find accommodation and so long as enough people want to go that it makes sense to run a boat. David