Halcyon's new wing

PfcAJ · July 14th, 2006, 07:51 PM

http://www.halcyon.net/mc/Halcyon_ExplorerCCR5.pdf

I don't know what to think. I almost seems that Haclyon is promoting the use of CCRs, very non-DIR per my understanding.

Is Halcyon going more mainstream? The new knife with tank banger and sheath with velcro closure, now this?

I feel there might be a Sith lord amongst the senate...

***ericfine50*** · July 14th, 2006, 08:32 PM

LOL - I don't think they are promoting CCR diving. They are listening to the customers that have used their wings for OC and/or SCR. Why pigeon hole yourself into one market?

Divingniknaks · July 14th, 2006, 08:41 PM

Now to be fair here, nowhere does it seem to promote CCR diving

I did think the KISS guys preferred things like the Agir or Oxycheck though, but of course this wasn't available either until now.

Does look darned wide at the bottom though, but I suppose that could just be the picture with no point of reference.

So Megs with an H on then next ? Anthony ?

*Hassan Adly* · July 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM

Holy sea-monster, Batman!

Janos · July 15th, 2006, 12:57 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

I did think the KISS guys preferred things like the Agir or Oxycheck though, but of course this wasn't available either until now.

I used an AGIR 38, which is great for this KISS.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

So Megs with an H on then next ?

Didn't one Inspo owner put an H sticker on his unit? And then bumped into JJ? I believe that JJ saw it and said: "I didn't realise we made those..."

Janos

Little Pete · July 15th, 2006, 06:46 PM

I believe the owner of that particular inspo has renamed it the "Halspiration" and it's in black (of course)

Mark Chase · July 15th, 2006, 08:00 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

Does look darned wide at the bottom though, but I suppose that could just be the picture with no point of reference.

So Megs with an H on then next ? Anthony ?

CCRs have counter lungs full of gas and scrubbers full of gas. As a result the upper half of the diver tends to dominate in the buoyancy arena. A wing specifically designed to provide lift at the bottom of the unit (like this) is perfect.

I hate to say it but as it might be on my shopping list.

For CCR divers it looks like a good design but i would have preferred greater lift capacity (ccrs need a lot of bailout) and a link to the lower cells across the bottom.

ATB

Mark Chase

iani · July 15th, 2006, 09:30 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

For CCR divers it looks like a good design but i would have preferred greater lift capacity (ccrs need a lot of bailout) and a link to the lower cells across the bottom.

The OMS one that Kevin is going to put on the Boris soon might be better in this respect Mark, I'd look into that before rushing to pay Halcyon prices.

Ian

*Brian Allen* · July 15th, 2006, 09:40 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by iani)

The OMS one that Kevin is going to put on the Boris soon might be better in this respect Mark, I'd look into that before rushing to pay Halcyon prices.

Ian

I'd just buy the right tool for the job, and make sure it suits my diving. Price not a concern when it comes to the safest and right piece of equipment for me, i don't scrimp on safety. But looking into all alternatives is a good idea.

iani · July 15th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Brian A)

I'd just buy the right tool for the job, and make sure it suits my diving. Price not a concern when it comes to the safest and right piece of equipment for me, i don't scrimp on safety. But looking into all alternatives is a good idea.

Good point Brian, Kevin has designed and built a CCR so he should be able to come up with a wing, Halcyon don't make a CCR and therefore probably aren't the people the CCR fraternity should be running too.

Ian

July 14th, 2006, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
PfcAJ(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 139	Halcyon's new wing http://www.halcyon.net/mc/Halcyon_ExplorerCCR5.pdf I don't know what to think. I almost seems that Haclyon is promoting the use of CCRs, very non-DIR per my understanding. Is Halcyon going more mainstream? The new knife with tank banger and sheath with velcro closure, now this? I feel there might be a Sith lord amongst the senate...

July 14th, 2006, 08:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Now to be fair here, nowhere does it seem to promote CCR diving I did think the KISS guys preferred things like the Agir or Oxycheck though, but of course this wasn't available either until now. Does look darned wide at the bottom though, but I suppose that could just be the picture with no point of reference. So Megs with an H on then next ? Anthony ? __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

July 15th, 2006, 12:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hassan Adly(Offline) GUE Instructor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Red Sea Posts: 287	Holy sea-monster, Batman! __________________ Hassan Adly Red Sea Discovery "Today I will finally see the sea again, which will smell of salt, wind, sand - and the cold of winter. Finally I will not only travel on it but dive in it, again I will become water, a bird - and I will remember the feeling of gliding above the abyss" Elena Sundukova, tragically lost at sea, January 2007

July 15th, 2006, 12:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
Janos(Offline) "Two Sheds" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Surrey Posts: 400	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) I did think the KISS guys preferred things like the Agir or Oxycheck though, but of course this wasn't available either until now. I used an AGIR 38, which is great for this KISS. Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) So Megs with an H on then next ? Didn't one Inspo owner put an H sticker on his unit? And then bumped into JJ? I believe that JJ saw it and said: "I didn't realise we made those..." Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed

July 15th, 2006, 06:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Little Pete(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 509	I believe the owner of that particular inspo has renamed it the "Halspiration" and it's in black (of course) __________________ The shortesk pink mask wearing str#ke on DIRx apparently

July 14th, 2006, 08:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
*ericfine50* (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 622	LOL - I don't think they are promoting CCR diving. They are listening to the customers that have used their wings for OC and/or SCR. Why pigeon hole yourself into one market?

July 15th, 2006, 08:00 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) Does look darned wide at the bottom though, but I suppose that could just be the picture with no point of reference. So Megs with an H on then next ? Anthony ? CCRs have counter lungs full of gas and scrubbers full of gas. As a result the upper half of the diver tends to dominate in the buoyancy arena. A wing specifically designed to provide lift at the bottom of the unit (like this) is perfect. I hate to say it but as it might be on my shopping list. For CCR divers it looks like a good design but i would have preferred greater lift capacity (ccrs need a lot of bailout) and a link to the lower cells across the bottom. ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

July 15th, 2006, 09:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
iani(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 76	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) For CCR divers it looks like a good design but i would have preferred greater lift capacity (ccrs need a lot of bailout) and a link to the lower cells across the bottom. The OMS one that Kevin is going to put on the Boris soon might be better in this respect Mark, I'd look into that before rushing to pay Halcyon prices. Ian

July 15th, 2006, 09:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
Brian Allen(Offline) GUE Instructor Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London & Plymouth Posts: 594	Quote: (Originally Posted by iani) The OMS one that Kevin is going to put on the Boris soon might be better in this respect Mark, I'd look into that before rushing to pay Halcyon prices. Ian I'd just buy the right tool for the job, and make sure it suits my diving. Price not a concern when it comes to the safest and right piece of equipment for me, i don't scrimp on safety. But looking into all alternatives is a good idea. __________________ ...dive planning again ... GUE fundamentals and Halcyon Equipment Online www.ocean-explorers.co.uk

July 15th, 2006, 11:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
iani(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 76	Quote: (Originally Posted by Brian A) I'd just buy the right tool for the job, and make sure it suits my diving. Price not a concern when it comes to the safest and right piece of equipment for me, i don't scrimp on safety. But looking into all alternatives is a good idea. Good point Brian, Kevin has designed and built a CCR so he should be able to come up with a wing, Halcyon don't make a CCR and therefore probably aren't the people the CCR fraternity should be running too. Ian