RenatoR(Offline)

You're being laughed at, you old timer!

Ahmed Adly, Marlin Inn DC(Offline)

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Markb99(Offline)

Having just rotated back to the real world from abroad and trying to find like minded souls to dive with I spent some fruitless weeks meeting some of the BSAC clubs thinking they might have a DIR minded section. What came abundantly clear was that very few people in the clubs dive our way and really had no intention of doing so with the view we were that too difficult techy lot. Whilst I am sure that some clubs have more like minded people my feeling is that more and more people have more of an idle curiosity and really would like to DIR but the peer pressure and now especially after BSAC latest efforts may well not bother. Also due to the economic situation most dive shops are trying to earn a pound by teaching PADI which at least puts some cash in the till. Are we moving forward slowly but surely but in ten years all divers will dive our way!!!! ZZzzzzzzzz ranting now need another drink. I must not drink & post .......

Janos(Offline)

I think most people in most clubs dive single cylinders, perhaps two or three dozen dives a year, and have a great time doing it.

But internet divers are a self-selecting sample and aren't typical of the diving population as a whole.

Janos

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Digger(Offline)

I think that the last post on 5th Feb still comes up on the first page tells me exactly where it is.

If your own divers ignore it, not entirely sure what the rest of the diving world is supposed to do. In 2 days there should be dozens of things people want to talk about. Not on DIRX it seems...

I don't think you will go through those stages, and I think that most of the diving world knows so little about DIR that it might as well be in the "Ignore You" category, but not through choice, the message just isn't out there with many.

The world of internet diving is very different to the real world, on the web I think you still have a fight on your hands - there's still plenty that don't understand what you're trying to do, and as a result will fight over stupid stuff that half the DIR divers I've met don't understand, let alone the "opposition".

Digs.

Ben Curtis(Offline)

Oi tosser pants what happened about that thing we were talking about last year????

I only reposted this because from where I am standing there doesn't really appear to be much of a war. At the moment we're just quietly building our trojan horse and biding our time.

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Mark Chase(Offline)

Exactly

In 10 years time all the internet divers will be either CCR or DIR (some both)


The rest of the world will just be divers having fun


ATB

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Digger(Offline)

Not sorted anything, loads of stuff to sort out with work and home so not been planning much with diving in the last few months. Still on the cards sometime, but not just yet.

It's not much of a war because you've only got 50 soldiers, can I suggest less of a Trojan Horse, and perhaps a Pony? :D

In all seriousness, it's probably because those that actually know what they're doing and what they're talking about don't see DIR or GUE as a bad thing, so the only people left to argue/fight about it are either the ridiculously prejudiced (hello BSAC tech group) or the incredibly ignorant who haven't done their reading/diving. Either group is pointless arguing with, because they either argue about stuff that isn't actually true (anyone else tired of "why do DIR divers only use Halcyon kit") or tend to try and pull at the threads and not see the whole jumper. Those of us who've been around the block know that the whole jumper is the important bit, however you get there.

Digs.

Ben Curtis(Offline)

What about the anti rain dance dive up north in the summer?

So your telling GUE divers to use a Pony?

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Steeeeeeve(Offline)

Hi,

I stumbled across this forum while reading up on different dive organizations, i am a BSAC diver, not an old one (under 3 years diving and only 24 years of age) nor am i very experienced yet (27 dives to my name with more to add this weekend).

This thread intrigued me to sign up because maybe "are we winning" is the wrong question to ask, id like to ask is it about winning?

I like to take my diving as i take my religion, i think every organization does some things good, and they all do some things badly but i am always open to new ideas to add to my own regardless of my organization or that of the person which i am in discussion with. I know that i will probably never reach the technical level or experience of alot of the people here and i probably wont adopt all of there opinions on a whim but i still have something to learn from every one the same as every one should have something to learn or be reminded of even by someone as new to the sport as me.

With that in mind ill ask again, is it about winning? or even how do you win? or is it about sharing the knowledge you have however people want to take it, some might adopt DIR and some might combine it with there own organization be it PADI, BSAC or other, only then can you say in my opinion (opinion being key) you have won because you will have bettered the sport as a whole and not only your organization which is a brilliant achievement.

I am learning alot reading this forum, i may not agree with everything for example specific pieces of equipment but reading about why someone might disagree with my choice of regulator for example may not convince me to change kit but it WILL make me think more about HOW i use it.

I apologise if this is complete babble but as i said i am still new to the sport and i just thought i would share my opinion.

-Steve