G-day from Scapa Flow

Kieran Hatton · March 26th, 2006, 04:46 PM

Hi quick hello.

In Orkney where I work as a dive instructor for Scapa Scuba.

Diving for 10 years, working for 3-4.

Kieran

Red Sea Shadow · March 26th, 2006, 07:03 PM

Welcome to the board Kieran.

**neilh** · March 26th, 2006, 08:34 PM

Welcome! See you in August

(I'll be on Hazel's boat!)

Randy956 · March 26th, 2006, 09:23 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton)

Hi quick hello.

In Orkney where I work as a dive instructor for Scapa Scuba.

Diving for 10 years, working for 3-4.

Kieran

Welcome aboard!

***ericfine50*** · March 26th, 2006, 09:38 PM

Welcome!
Scapa is a place I want to get to someday.

Kieran Hatton · March 27th, 2006, 03:37 PM

All welcome in Scapa, for those who are thinking about we are as DIR freindly as possible when it comes to diving. If you are diving off the boat as a group then you can run the dive as you choose, if you were diving with myself or another staff member then we answer to a higher authority the HSE [Health and Safety Executive]. Which means no deco, though nitrox is fine. It can affect your dive time though with no computer [ ie square profile ].

Hope this helps.

See you all soon.

Any questions feel free to get in touch.

Adrian Kelland · March 27th, 2006, 04:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton)

All welcome in Scapa, for those who are thinking about we are as DIR freindly as possible when it comes to diving. If you are diving off the boat as a group then you can run the dive as you choose, if you were diving with myself or another staff member then we answer to a higher authority the HSE [Health and Safety Executive]. Which means no deco, though nitrox is fine. It can affect your dive time though with no computer [ ie square profile ].

Hope this helps.

See you all soon.

Any questions feel free to get in touch.

Keiran

I take it that's the way your business has decided to reduce the risk of DCI? AFAIK, the HSE don't have a ban on Deco.

Welcome BTW, might see you in August

Adrian

Kieran Hatton · March 28th, 2006, 10:32 AM

Hi Adrian

As far as we are aware to operate deco within the HSE's diving at work regs you need immediate access to a chamber [this is why some boats have ended up with chambers onboard just for teaching some extended range / trimix courses]. Although beyond that, we use PADI releases when conducting guided dives, and as I'm sure your aware PADI is no deco. Like I say though if people just want a boat charter then there is no problem with any ammount of deco.

What we tend to do for people who would like some guided dives but also want to dive beyond the realms of what we can offer from a guiding point of view is. Couple of days guided diving to get your bearings on the wrecks, and then go your own way for the rest of the trip, as a team, buddy pair or individual.

Hope this clears it up.

Kieran

Gareth Burrows · March 28th, 2006, 10:48 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton)

Hi Adrian

As far as we are aware to operate deco within the HSE's diving at work regs you need immediate access to a chamber [this is why some boats have ended up with chambers onboard just for teaching some extended range / trimix courses]. Although beyond that, we use PADI releases when conducting guided dives, and as I'm sure your aware PADI is no deco. Like I say though if people just want a boat charter then there is no problem with any ammount of deco.

How bizarre. I struggle to believe this is the case. What about all the trimix instructors teaching courses out of weymouth and plymouth. I find it difficult to believe they are all breaching the Diving at work regs.

Kieran Hatton · March 28th, 2006, 12:18 PM

Hi Garf

I'm not trying to start a huge debate here. I just tried to make sure people were clear about what we can offer to save any disapointment. Everybodies take on the regulation is a little different. They are available on line though.

I fully understand that it would be impossible to run some courses without deco, and you are not breaking any agency regs by incuring deco on a trimix course for instance nor are you breaking any regs to the student it is simply a rule for divers at work.

Really wish I hadn't mentioned it.

March 26th, 2006, 04:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kieran Hatton(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scapa Flow Posts: 20	G-day from Scapa Flow Hi quick hello. In Orkney where I work as a dive instructor for Scapa Scuba. Diving for 10 years, working for 3-4. Kieran

March 26th, 2006, 09:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Randy956(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 89	Welcome Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton) Hi quick hello. In Orkney where I work as a dive instructor for Scapa Scuba. Diving for 10 years, working for 3-4. Kieran Welcome aboard!

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Gareth Burrows (Online) Chimp 2 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Horsham, West Sussex Posts: 368	Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton) Hi Adrian As far as we are aware to operate deco within the HSE's diving at work regs you need immediate access to a chamber [this is why some boats have ended up with chambers onboard just for teaching some extended range / trimix courses]. Although beyond that, we use PADI releases when conducting guided dives, and as I'm sure your aware PADI is no deco. Like I say though if people just want a boat charter then there is no problem with any ammount of deco. How bizarre. I struggle to believe this is the case. What about all the trimix instructors teaching courses out of weymouth and plymouth. I find it difficult to believe they are all breaching the Diving at work regs. __________________ Garf Amusing and Clever Signature under construction.

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March 27th, 2006, 03:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Kieran Hatton(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scapa Flow Posts: 20	All welcome in Scapa, for those who are thinking about we are as DIR freindly as possible when it comes to diving. If you are diving off the boat as a group then you can run the dive as you choose, if you were diving with myself or another staff member then we answer to a higher authority the HSE [Health and Safety Executive]. Which means no deco, though nitrox is fine. It can affect your dive time though with no computer [ ie square profile ]. Hope this helps. See you all soon. Any questions feel free to get in touch.

March 27th, 2006, 04:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Adrian Kelland(Offline) Can't remember Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Exeter - Team of 1 Posts: 271	Quote: (Originally Posted by Kieran Hatton) All welcome in Scapa, for those who are thinking about we are as DIR freindly as possible when it comes to diving. If you are diving off the boat as a group then you can run the dive as you choose, if you were diving with myself or another staff member then we answer to a higher authority the HSE [Health and Safety Executive]. Which means no deco, though nitrox is fine. It can affect your dive time though with no computer [ ie square profile ]. Hope this helps. See you all soon. Any questions feel free to get in touch. Keiran I take it that's the way your business has decided to reduce the risk of DCI? AFAIK, the HSE don't have a ban on Deco. Welcome BTW, might see you in August Adrian

March 28th, 2006, 10:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Kieran Hatton(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scapa Flow Posts: 20	Hi Adrian As far as we are aware to operate deco within the HSE's diving at work regs you need immediate access to a chamber [this is why some boats have ended up with chambers onboard just for teaching some extended range / trimix courses]. Although beyond that, we use PADI releases when conducting guided dives, and as I'm sure your aware PADI is no deco. Like I say though if people just want a boat charter then there is no problem with any ammount of deco. What we tend to do for people who would like some guided dives but also want to dive beyond the realms of what we can offer from a guiding point of view is. Couple of days guided diving to get your bearings on the wrecks, and then go your own way for the rest of the trip, as a team, buddy pair or individual. Hope this clears it up. Kieran

March 28th, 2006, 12:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
Kieran Hatton(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scapa Flow Posts: 20	Hi Garf I'm not trying to start a huge debate here. I just tried to make sure people were clear about what we can offer to save any disapointment. Everybodies take on the regulation is a little different. They are available on line though. I fully understand that it would be impossible to run some courses without deco, and you are not breaking any agency regs by incuring deco on a trimix course for instance nor are you breaking any regs to the student it is simply a rule for divers at work. Really wish I hadn't mentioned it.