lift bag deployment

temple.bar · August 6th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Hi
could someone explain me the correct procedure to deploy a lift bag? is the same procedure used for smb? the bag is connected to the spool by a loop in the line (like smb) or by a boltsnap?
thanx!!!!!

MonkSeal · August 6th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by temple.bar)

Hi
could someone explain me the correct procedure to deploy a lift bag? is the same procedure used for smb? the bag is connected to the spool by a loop in the line (like smb) or by a boltsnap?
thanx!!!!!

Same procedure as for SMB. Attached using loop in the line. Double-ender can be used to ease process of pulling line through SMB D-ring

temple.bar · August 6th, 2008, 08:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by MonkSeal)

Same procedure as for SMB. Attached using loop in the line. Double-ender can be used to ease process of pulling line through SMB D-ring

ok, thank you...I've seen some videos of LB deployment where the divers use a doubleender to link the LB to the spool....but they weren't DIR divers!!!

Pufferfish · August 6th, 2008, 11:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by temple.bar)

ok, thank you...I've seen some videos of LB deployment where the divers use a doubleender to link the LB to the spool....but they weren't DIR divers!!!

Check this video: YouTube - SMB deployment v2

and this: YouTube - SMB Deployment (dry run)

-Pufferfish

alexmzz · August 7th, 2008, 08:40 AM

Re the lift bag deployment. I'm interested to know if you guys carry the spool and lift bag already connected, and in which pocket?
I usually dive with mine pre connected, especially if I'm doing a sea dive, if it's a cave I might not, and I carry it in the right pocket.
I carry my big lift bag in the pocket of my backplate.

MonkSeal · August 7th, 2008, 08:45 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by alexmzz)

Re the lift bag deployment. I'm interested to know if you guys carry the spool and lift bag already connected, and in which pocket?
I usually dive with mine pre connected, especially if I'm doing a sea dive, if it's a cave I might not, and I carry it in the right pocket.
I carry my big lift bag in the pocket of my backplate.

SMB pre-rigged in left pocket, lifbag folded in backplate pocket, safety spool (to be used with liftbag) in right pocket.

alexmzz · August 7th, 2008, 08:59 AM

I should re phrase that actually. It's my SMB that's pre connected, to a 30mt spool, but I've used it sometimes as a 'lift bag' for doing my ascents [a bigger one would be better] For deeper ascents I use the reel that I carry on my butt and connect it at the time.

davetheshoeman · August 7th, 2008, 09:03 AM

Have alook at

Question of pockets!!!

But what Monkseal said sounds pretty good.

Left pocket orange SMB reel looped on + wetnotes (low profile compass velcroed inside, good for map navigation)

Right pocket yellow emergency SMB with reel looped on + spare mask

Backplate pocket Lift bag

Bum D-Ring Pathfinder reel.

Most sea diving, especially in currents (and ours 6-8 knots) its handy to have the reel looped on. In an Emergency I don't really want to be looping I want to get that sucker up as fast as possible for support divers, if I need more line (35m already) I have my pathfinder. For wreck penetrations I have my pathfinder. For discovered little goodies a catch bag is sometime carried and clipped off or the lift bag can be used, anchors etc etc found and then all I have to do is unloop a reel or use my pathfinder.

alexmzz · August 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM

Got it, thanks! I'm sort of close, I've been carrying my wetnotes in my left and anything else that I might require during the dive, as in a spare line cutter, jon line. In my right I put my spare mask and spool/SMB.[orange]
I only carry the one SMB. The only time I've really had to use it was when I was up in Tulagi last month and we were doing our ascents off the wrecks on the reel and lift bag, instead of coming up a fixed line. They were practice exercises in case we ever got swept off the wrecks.

**keri.lewis** · August 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by alexmzz)

Got it, thanks! I'm sort of close, I've been carrying my wetnotes in my left and anything else that I might require during the dive, as in a spare line cutter, jon line. In my right I put my spare mask and spool/SMB.[orange]

Official Position seems to be -

Safety equipment in right pocket - so that's wetnotes, safety spool, back-up mask etc. There seem to be hotly contested beliefs on wetnotes being regular equipment, but it looks like the standard position is right (I always have)

Regular equipment left pocket - assorted spools, SMB, spare double-enders, etc.

It's so automatic these days I don't think as I pack!

August 6th, 2008, 02:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
temple.bar(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ITALY Posts: 20	lift bag deployment Hi could someone explain me the correct procedure to deploy a lift bag? is the same procedure used for smb? the bag is connected to the spool by a loop in the line (like smb) or by a boltsnap? thanx!!!!!

August 7th, 2008, 08:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
alexmzz(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	Re the lift bag deployment. I'm interested to know if you guys carry the spool and lift bag already connected, and in which pocket? I usually dive with mine pre connected, especially if I'm doing a sea dive, if it's a cave I might not, and I carry it in the right pocket. I carry my big lift bag in the pocket of my backplate. Last edited by alexmzz; August 7th, 2008 at 08:43 AM.

August 7th, 2008, 10:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
keri.lewis(Offline) Back in the water.. Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 386	Quote: (Originally Posted by alexmzz) Got it, thanks! I'm sort of close, I've been carrying my wetnotes in my left and anything else that I might require during the dive, as in a spare line cutter, jon line. In my right I put my spare mask and spool/SMB.[orange] Official Position seems to be - Safety equipment in right pocket - so that's wetnotes, safety spool, back-up mask etc. There seem to be hotly contested beliefs on wetnotes being regular equipment, but it looks like the standard position is right (I always have) Regular equipment left pocket - assorted spools, SMB, spare double-enders, etc. It's so automatic these days I don't think as I pack! __________________ Even a "bad" day diving beats a day in the office... Keri The more I learn.. the more ignorant I realise I am..

August 6th, 2008, 02:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
MonkSeal(Offline) Old Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 475	Quote: (Originally Posted by temple.bar) Hi could someone explain me the correct procedure to deploy a lift bag? is the same procedure used for smb? the bag is connected to the spool by a loop in the line (like smb) or by a boltsnap? thanx!!!!! Same procedure as for SMB. Attached using loop in the line. Double-ender can be used to ease process of pulling line through SMB D-ring

August 6th, 2008, 08:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
temple.bar(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ITALY Posts: 20	Quote: (Originally Posted by MonkSeal) Same procedure as for SMB. Attached using loop in the line. Double-ender can be used to ease process of pulling line through SMB D-ring ok, thank you...I've seen some videos of LB deployment where the divers use a doubleender to link the LB to the spool....but they weren't DIR divers!!!

August 6th, 2008, 11:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pufferfish(Offline) New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philippines Posts: 6	Quote: (Originally Posted by temple.bar) ok, thank you...I've seen some videos of LB deployment where the divers use a doubleender to link the LB to the spool....but they weren't DIR divers!!! Check this video: YouTube - SMB deployment v2 and this: YouTube - SMB Deployment (dry run) -Pufferfish

August 7th, 2008, 08:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
MonkSeal(Offline) Old Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 475	Quote: (Originally Posted by alexmzz) Re the lift bag deployment. I'm interested to know if you guys carry the spool and lift bag already connected, and in which pocket? I usually dive with mine pre connected, especially if I'm doing a sea dive, if it's a cave I might not, and I carry it in the right pocket. I carry my big lift bag in the pocket of my backplate. SMB pre-rigged in left pocket, lifbag folded in backplate pocket, safety spool (to be used with liftbag) in right pocket.

August 7th, 2008, 08:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
alexmzz(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	I should re phrase that actually. It's my SMB that's pre connected, to a 30mt spool, but I've used it sometimes as a 'lift bag' for doing my ascents [a bigger one would be better] For deeper ascents I use the reel that I carry on my butt and connect it at the time.

August 7th, 2008, 09:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
davetheshoeman(Offline) New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Port Philip Bay Australia Posts: 92	Have alook at Question of pockets!!! But what Monkseal said sounds pretty good. Left pocket orange SMB reel looped on + wetnotes (low profile compass velcroed inside, good for map navigation) Right pocket yellow emergency SMB with reel looped on + spare mask Backplate pocket Lift bag Bum D-Ring Pathfinder reel. Most sea diving, especially in currents (and ours 6-8 knots) its handy to have the reel looped on. In an Emergency I don't really want to be looping I want to get that sucker up as fast as possible for support divers, if I need more line (35m already) I have my pathfinder. For wreck penetrations I have my pathfinder. For discovered little goodies a catch bag is sometime carried and clipped off or the lift bag can be used, anchors etc etc found and then all I have to do is unloop a reel or use my pathfinder.

August 7th, 2008, 09:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
alexmzz(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	Got it, thanks! I'm sort of close, I've been carrying my wetnotes in my left and anything else that I might require during the dive, as in a spare line cutter, jon line. In my right I put my spare mask and spool/SMB.[orange] I only carry the one SMB. The only time I've really had to use it was when I was up in Tulagi last month and we were doing our ascents off the wrecks on the reel and lift bag, instead of coming up a fixed line. They were practice exercises in case we ever got swept off the wrecks.