coops(Offline)

Dear all

As we all know, a lot of training hours are committed in the pursuance of goals and excellence within the DIR diving community; to achieve being the best divers we can.

It makes sense to get the most out of these committed hours!

1. Within GUE, utilizing the mnemonic GUE EDGE prepares us to be fully prepared for the dive we are about to undertake, ensuring we have considered each important point therein prior to the dive.

2. Within a military environment, the debrief is seen as the most important factor in any given operation/task. To learn from the experience fully!

3. This debrief always follows a set procedure with a beginning, middle and logical end, leaving the team in no doubt as to what went well, what went wrong and what we will be doing next time to put it right.

4. The process allows the team to evaluate all the factors without it becoming an exercise in “self defense”. To use this same process in our diving I believe would better focus debriefs at the end of our dives.

5. The military format equates in a diving arena as outlined below, conveniently in the mnemonic DIR DIVE. The designated team leader would promote discussion on the following points:

D = Did the team or individual achieve the goal of the dive?

I = If we had the opportunity to do it again what would we change and why?

R = Review the sequence of events as they happened (kiting up, getting in the water ect).


D = Deco profile that was actually done compared to the planned deco.

I = Individuals thoughts on how they thought the dive went from their perspective!

V = Video evaluation of the dive.

E = Exercises and drills to concentrate on or will be taught next time, when and where.

Thoughts anybody?

All the best

Coops

Gareth Burrows(Offline)

D = Did the team or individual forget we are not supposed to do goal-orientated diving



I like the idea of doing debriefs, and we definitely do after every training dive, but I'm not sure it needs to be this formal. I think this might be a solution looking for a problem. However, I am always open to new ideas so I'll see what the chimps think of it.

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DRE(Offline)

Isn't this why the bar and beer was invented in the first place?

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coops(Offline)

[quote=Garf;43732]D = Did the team or individual forget we are not supposed to do goal-orientated diving


Its uniform in its approach & structure I agree, but that’s the beauty of using mnemonics.
Maybe many don’t bother with the following:

G- Goal (dive objective).
U- Unified Team
E- Equip.
E- Exposure.
D-Deco.
G-Gas.
E-Environment.

BSAC – SEEDS, BAR

Just food for thought, maybe some may find it helps structure things others may not; don’t know really! Lust an idea.

Coops

Howard Payne(Offline)

The chimps think it sounds like to much bloody hard work.
We shall continue with the usual post dive debriefs containing the three pillars of UK DIR diving: "Sarcasm, Dark Irony & General Nastiness"
It should be pointed out however, that all sarcasm is a team resource and it's everyones responsibility to ensure it is maintained at all times.

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Gareth Burrows(Offline)

Please note that all team members need to be proficient in all team roles. An individual may specialise in sarcasm, for example, but will need the ability to be particularly nasty if a situation requires the roles to be swapped around at any point.

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Howard Payne(Offline)

Very true mate - always worth pointing out that we tend to train to our weaknessness and dive to our strengths - so for instance - you might adopt the role of providing sarcasm on a training dive to improve your skills in this area - but you would always be providing the dark irony on a proper dive as this is clearly your forte. Hope that clarifies the situation for any non chimps out there

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fraser(Offline)

I've heard your dives involve doughnuts

Frase (in the spirit of all things nasty)

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Mal Bridgeman(Offline)

Not being properly trained in the ways of a Chimp, I can do Sarcasm and Dark Irony but General Nastiness is an anathama to me. I'll just follow your lead and do "trust me" nastiness.


Mal

If we are allowed to stray from the original intent of the thread....I can't help but hear a Monty Python sketch in my head ....

"The Three Pillars of UK DIR Diving which are:

Sarcasm, Dark Irony and General Nastiness

and Ridicule ........"

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LCF(Offline)

Although it seems most answers are seeing this as humorous, I have to say that in my wreck workshop, taught by two Cave2/Tech2 divers, we were expected to be able to conduct a debrief of the dive that went through the events in chronological order AND with reference to the time each event occurred. I was tasked with a similar debrief in Rec Triox (and didn't do very well at it). In both cases, it was made clear that our usual,"Wow, that was fun," or, "Well, that didn't go very well," wasn't an adequate evaluation of the dive

I like the proposed mnemonic.

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