Rec Triox then Tech 1 or just Tech 1...

Jonathan · August 21st, 2006, 03:47 PM

Just been talking through where we see ourselves heading with Neilh and we both would like to do tech 1 at some point, but neither of us are in a great hurry and may not get to put the necessary time in.

I guess my question is aimed at instructors or those that have sat rec triox, which is, which is best...

doing rec triox first and then upgrade to tech 1 or go straight to tech 1.

I know there's no one that can currently teach rec triox in the UK at the mo, so we'd be looking at getting someone to come over/or go somewhere. Has anyone else concidered it or would maybe be interested in it?

Cheers

Jonathan

**neilh** · August 21st, 2006, 03:58 PM

I'd be interested

Stephan · August 21st, 2006, 04:53 PM

Talk to Mario Arena, do the course in Italy in May and you'll have Northsea conditions ;-)

I've done RecTriox in 2005 and in 3 weeks I'm doing the T1 upgrade in Croatia. Personally I'm happy with the route I took.
The RecTriox gave me the change to progress at my pace in deeper diving with He-enriched gasses. I've done this year a lot of RecTriox dives within the 35 - 40m range and now I feel I have a good basis to ad the deco bottle.

But it's all personal. I'm not a deco-freak so I need time and practise to absorb everything. For others this route might be simply to long and unnecessary.

Regards,
Stephan.

limeyx · August 21st, 2006, 06:10 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jonathan)

Just been talking through where we see ourselves heading with Neilh and we both would like to do tech 1 at some point, but neither of us are in a great hurry and may not get to put the necessary time in.

I guess my question is aimed at instructors or those that have sat rec triox, which is, which is best...

doing rec triox first and then upgrade to tech 1 or go straight to tech 1.

I know there's no one that can currently teach rec triox in the UK at the mo, so we'd be looking at getting someone to come over/or go somewhere. Has anyone else concidered it or would maybe be interested in it?

Cheers

Jonathan

I had exactly the same questions last year and ended up going straight for tech1 (and somehow passing) instead of through triox.

Initially the reason I signed up for tech1 is that some other divers wanted to do tech2 locally, and so we figured we'd be bringing Gideon over to do that, so we may as well combine the classes and it just seemed overkill to pay to fly an instrucor over for a triox class.

You should also figure out the kind of dives triox will let you do. I am really glad we went tech1 because the local diving is mostly either 100 feet or shallower, or 130 and deeper. Not so much in the 100-130 range.

I think if you have the right mentors (and fortunately I did) and dedicate yourself to practicing, tech1 is doable first time around.

If there's a lot of local diving in the triox range then that might make sense.
Either way, do the triox class in doubles so you can then convert to T1.

MonkSeal · August 22nd, 2006, 01:05 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephan)

I've done RecTriox in 2005 and in 3 weeks I'm doing the T1 upgrade in Croatia. Personally I'm happy with the route I took.

Maybe we'll see each other.

Lorenzo · August 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM

Hello,
I think it is better to go directly to tech 1. In some places, Helium isn't so easy to find/refill. A hard experience with air diving for depths until 40 meters may be preferred, sometimes.
Bye. Lorenzo

limeyx · August 28th, 2006, 07:16 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lorenzo)

Hello,
I think it is better to go directly to tech 1. In some places, Helium isn't so easy to find/refill. A hard experience with air diving for depths until 40 meters may be preferred, sometimes.
Bye. Lorenzo

Not sure how Tech1 solves the helium problem -- any dive deeper than 100 feet within DIR is going to be using helium. No dives to 140 on air ...

Lorenzo · August 30th, 2006, 02:17 PM

I'm not sure too, but I think Tech 1 is complete for trimix and Triox diving. In many places here, you can't find He for recreational depths, so you cannot use triox, only air.
I think Triox is optimun for long BT around 40 mt, for short dives air is ok.
I'm sorry but actually I'm not a DIR diver

Ciao. Lorenzo

Jonathan · August 30th, 2006, 03:27 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lorenzo)

I'm not sure too, but I think Tech 1 is complete for trimix and Triox diving. In many places here, you can't find He for recreational depths, so you cannot use triox, only air.
I think Triox is optimun for long BT around 40 mt, for short dives air is ok.
I'm sorry but actually I'm not a DIR diver

Ciao. Lorenzo

Actually under ~30m it's 32% and over it's He. No deep air at all.

August 21st, 2006, 03:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jonathan(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 215	Rec Triox then Tech 1 or just Tech 1... Just been talking through where we see ourselves heading with Neilh and we both would like to do tech 1 at some point, but neither of us are in a great hurry and may not get to put the necessary time in. I guess my question is aimed at instructors or those that have sat rec triox, which is, which is best... doing rec triox first and then upgrade to tech 1 or go straight to tech 1. I know there's no one that can currently teach rec triox in the UK at the mo, so we'd be looking at getting someone to come over/or go somewhere. Has anyone else concidered it or would maybe be interested in it? Cheers Jonathan

August 21st, 2006, 06:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
limeyx(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 708	Quote: (Originally Posted by Jonathan) Just been talking through where we see ourselves heading with Neilh and we both would like to do tech 1 at some point, but neither of us are in a great hurry and may not get to put the necessary time in. I guess my question is aimed at instructors or those that have sat rec triox, which is, which is best... doing rec triox first and then upgrade to tech 1 or go straight to tech 1. I know there's no one that can currently teach rec triox in the UK at the mo, so we'd be looking at getting someone to come over/or go somewhere. Has anyone else concidered it or would maybe be interested in it? Cheers Jonathan I had exactly the same questions last year and ended up going straight for tech1 (and somehow passing) instead of through triox. Initially the reason I signed up for tech1 is that some other divers wanted to do tech2 locally, and so we figured we'd be bringing Gideon over to do that, so we may as well combine the classes and it just seemed overkill to pay to fly an instrucor over for a triox class. You should also figure out the kind of dives triox will let you do. I am really glad we went tech1 because the local diving is mostly either 100 feet or shallower, or 130 and deeper. Not so much in the 100-130 range. I think if you have the right mentors (and fortunately I did) and dedicate yourself to practicing, tech1 is doable first time around. If there's a lot of local diving in the triox range then that might make sense. Either way, do the triox class in doubles so you can then convert to T1. __________________ my divelog: http://www.mydivinglife.com/limeyx

August 28th, 2006, 07:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
limeyx(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 708	Quote: (Originally Posted by Lorenzo) Hello, I think it is better to go directly to tech 1. In some places, Helium isn't so easy to find/refill. A hard experience with air diving for depths until 40 meters may be preferred, sometimes. Bye. Lorenzo Not sure how Tech1 solves the helium problem -- any dive deeper than 100 feet within DIR is going to be using helium. No dives to 140 on air ... __________________ my divelog: http://www.mydivinglife.com/limeyx

August 21st, 2006, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
neilh(Offline) Haemoglobin on the bus... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 1,900	I'd be interested

August 21st, 2006, 04:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Stephan(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 41	Talk to Mario Arena, do the course in Italy in May and you'll have Northsea conditions ;-) I've done RecTriox in 2005 and in 3 weeks I'm doing the T1 upgrade in Croatia. Personally I'm happy with the route I took. The RecTriox gave me the change to progress at my pace in deeper diving with He-enriched gasses. I've done this year a lot of RecTriox dives within the 35 - 40m range and now I feel I have a good basis to ad the deco bottle. But it's all personal. I'm not a deco-freak so I need time and practise to absorb everything. For others this route might be simply to long and unnecessary. Regards, Stephan.

August 22nd, 2006, 01:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
MonkSeal (Online) Old Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 475	Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephan) I've done RecTriox in 2005 and in 3 weeks I'm doing the T1 upgrade in Croatia. Personally I'm happy with the route I took. Maybe we'll see each other.

August 28th, 2006, 05:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lorenzo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milano-Italy Posts: 5	Hello, I think it is better to go directly to tech 1. In some places, Helium isn't so easy to find/refill. A hard experience with air diving for depths until 40 meters may be preferred, sometimes. Bye. Lorenzo

August 30th, 2006, 02:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lorenzo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Milano-Italy Posts: 5	I'm not sure too, but I think Tech 1 is complete for trimix and Triox diving. In many places here, you can't find He for recreational depths, so you cannot use triox, only air. I think Triox is optimun for long BT around 40 mt, for short dives air is ok. I'm sorry but actually I'm not a DIR diver Ciao. Lorenzo

August 30th, 2006, 03:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jonathan(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 215	Quote: (Originally Posted by Lorenzo) I'm not sure too, but I think Tech 1 is complete for trimix and Triox diving. In many places here, you can't find He for recreational depths, so you cannot use triox, only air. I think Triox is optimun for long BT around 40 mt, for short dives air is ok. I'm sorry but actually I'm not a DIR diver Ciao. Lorenzo Actually under ~30m it's 32% and over it's He. No deep air at all.