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GUE Procedures We'll try to put stuff which relates to GUE rulings on various proceedures in here...
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May 8th, 2006, 03:25 PM
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| New Member  Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany
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 | Clipping away primary during s-drill Hi all, As you are talking about clipping away the primary regulator in another tread, I’ve a further question: Are you clipping away the primary reg. As you do your s-drill…? One of my buddies und myself had these discussion. We learned it different in our GUE classes, but we had also different instructors. I couldn’t find anything concerning this in the actual GUE standards. shorty |
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May 8th, 2006, 03:47 PM
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| GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK
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  | Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi all, On an S-drill, the OOA diver clips away their Long hose once they have had a reg donated to them.As you are talking about clipping away the primary regulator in another tread, I’ve a further question: Are you clipping away the primary reg. As you do your s-drill…? One of my buddies und myself had these discussion. We learned it different in our GUE classes, but we had also different instructors. I couldn’t find anything concerning this in the actual GUE standards. shorty HTH J
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May 8th, 2006, 03:57 PM
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| Hi, do I understand this right? the diver who receives the long hose clips his primary away…? Bur what’s up with the dive who is performing the valve drill? After closing down the primary valve and changing to the backup, Do you click your long hose away…? shorty |
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May 8th, 2006, 04:03 PM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi, If the long hose reg is not in somebody's mouth, or about to be, it's clipped off.do I understand this right? the diver who receives the long hose clips his primary away…? Bur what’s up with the dive who is performing the valve drill? After closing down the primary valve and changing to the backup, Do you click your long hose away…? shorty Tobin |
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May 8th, 2006, 04:32 PM
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| GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi, Yes.do I understand this right? the diver who receives the long hose clips his primary away…? Quote: Bur what’s up with the dive who is performing the valve drill? Yes. You clip away the long hose, as you have turned off the valve that feeds it. In a real Right post failure, you can't use that reg, so it's not in someone's mouth, and so it's clipped away.After closing down the primary valve and changing to the backup, Do you click your long hose away…? HTH J
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May 10th, 2006, 06:23 PM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi all, Hi Shorty,.... One of my buddies und myself had these discussion. We learned it different in our GUE classes, but we had also different instructors. ..... shorty may I ask what you were taught and who the instructor was? Best, Derk |
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May 15th, 2006, 09:28 AM
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| New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Germany
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| Hi Derk, The instructor was Achim, the DIR-F was in Spring 05 in Germany. If I remember right, I was thought not to clip the primary away, cause the S-Drill is a valve and OOA drill and not a clipping drill. shorty |
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May 15th, 2006, 11:35 AM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi Derk, Both S-Drill and V-Drill include clip off primary. AFAIK it has been always like that. The goal of drill for this issue is obvious: if long hose is not active the regulator has to be clipped off.The instructor was Achim, the DIR-F was in Spring 05 in Germany. If I remember right, I was thought not to clip the primary away, cause the S-Drill is a valve and OOA drill and not a clipping drill. shorty |
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May 15th, 2006, 01:05 PM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi Derk, I don't understand what your saying here.The instructor was Achim, the DIR-F was in Spring 05 in Germany. If I remember right, I was thought not to clip the primary away, cause the S-Drill is a valve and OOA drill and not a clipping drill. shorty The S-drill and the valve drill are two different drills. The S-drill involves no valve operations whatsoever. In an S-drill, the OOA diver should clip their long hose after recieving gas from the buddy. In a valve drill, the diver performing the drill clips the long hose after closing and breathing down the right post. Rich |
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May 15th, 2006, 02:59 PM
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| New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Germany
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by shorty) Hi Derk, Hi Shorty,The instructor was Achim, the DIR-F was in Spring 05 in Germany. If I remember right, I was thought not to clip the primary away, cause the S-Drill is a valve and OOA drill and not a clipping drill. shorty thank you for sharing the info with us, with all instructors I had (Tom and Mario) it always meant clipping, as rich says, because only then you know where the reg is and it´s not dangling around... best, Derk |
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