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Old December 18th, 2005, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ann intriguing discussion between hubs & I tonight - whilst discussing rebreathers - and no, there will not be a be-ribboned YBOD under the tree this yule-tide.
In terms of 'man-hours' of participation, what is the the most dangerous sport of all? I voted for mountaineering, followed by hang-gliding, etc, all the usual suspects...........went to google and did a search and I 'discovered' the following :
Types of sports and recreational activities:
Consider the most recent statistics from the National Youth Sports Safety Foundation:
basketball
More than 193,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for basketball-related injuries.
baseball and softball
Nearly 116,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for baseball-related injuries. Baseball also has the highest fatality rate among sports for children ages 5 to 14, with three to four children dying from baseball injuries each year.
bicycling
More than 373,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for bicycle-related injuries.
football
Almost 186,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for football-related injuries.
ice skating
More than 14,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for ice skating-related injuries.
in-line skating/roller skating
Nearly 58,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for in-line skating-related injuries.
skateboarding
Nearly 27,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for skateboarding-related injuries.
sledding
About 23,500 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for sledding-related injuries.
snow skiing/snowboarding
More than 18,500 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for snow skiing-related injuries.
soccer
About 85,000 children ages 5 to 14 were treated in hospital emergency rooms for soccer-related injuries.
trampolines
Nearly 68,000 children ages 14 and under were treated in hospital emergency rooms for trampoline-related injuries.
It was the trampolining one that surprised me the most!! You can probably guess where these statistics came from...........no, not Scotland..
Anyways, does anyone know where I can find out just how dangerous diving is - cos strangely, hubs would like to know (I think he is looking for Christmas present ideas)...
Dianne
 
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Old December 18th, 2005, 11:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It was the trampolining one that surprised me the most!!
Anyways, does anyone know where I can find out just how dangerous diving is
Well.. that's really a hard one. Because you can't really find out how many people are diving and you really need to know that before you can say anything about how dangerous it is.

If 70 000 children between 5 - 14 were using a trampolin then i would say that it's very dangerous, but if the number was 10 million I would say that it's very safe.

Maybe some national organization could gather how many fills clubs and divecenters do every year, that would give you a good idea of how many people are diving.

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Anyways, does anyone know where I can find out just how dangerous diving is - cos strangely, hubs would like to know (I think he is looking for Christmas present ideas)...
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Or thinking of upping the life insurance....
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Years ago I read that there were more injuries in bowling and golf per year then in scuba diving...
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Anyways, does anyone know where I can find out just how dangerous diving is - cos strangely, hubs would like to know (I think he is looking for Christmas present ideas)...
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1) within the UK, there are on average 300-400 incidents and 15-18 fatalities involving divers each year (based on the bsac incident report - which covers all diving, including coastguard/emergency services reports - not just bsac divers). There is no definitive number of dives each year.

2) insurance companies have a view on how risky diving is - for me, they think my chances of dying are the same as a 63-67 year old man, but i'm only 37 - just because of the diving i do (trimix below 60m). FYI insurance companies don't believe that diving is a significant risk if you're diving in UK open water in the 0m-25m range

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How about traffic accidents?

About 1 million people die every year and 10-15 million are injured.
That's a 9/11 everyday...it's very sad, yet few people are aware of it.

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2) insurance companies have a view on how risky diving is - for me, they think my chances of dying are the same as a 63-67 year old man, but i'm only 37 - just because of the diving i do (trimix below 60m). FYI insurance companies don't believe that diving is a significant risk if you're diving in UK open water in the 0m-25m range
Last time I spoke to an insurance company they admitted that the 30m 'limit' was there as a result of the training agencies, not as a result of actuarial studies. It was a bit of a bizzare conversation:

me - so you don't care that I'm going into a cave?
Insurers - so long as its above 30m & you are diving with an instructor.
me - ok, my wife is an instructor, but not for caves, is that ok?
insurers - so long as she is an instructor, that's fine.
me - I'm also an instructor, does that mean my wife is ok?
insurers - if she is diving with you, then that's ok.
me - so just to confirm, if my wife & I are diving together, its above 30m then we are covered, despite it being in a cave & neither of us are cave instructors?
insurers - yes, it's no problem

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Obviouly American statistics. In Belgium basket ball and base ball don't cause such a high number of casualties: Soccer causes most injuries, I believe.

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