Finning and buoancy control exercises

duskdiver · January 17th, 2007, 02:47 PM

Guys,
I have been on your site for a couple of days now!!
Fantastic, I like it a lot

, many things I read about, are things, I was missing in the system I was thought.(or am teaching)
I have always been intersted in exercises that give me more control, perfect skills, fin work etc..I used to jump into the pool by myself and practise backward finning, inventing my own buoancy execises, doing skills in midwater etc......Other Instructors and Dm´s would look at me if I were...

can I find something about fin work, buoancy control exercises or skills.
What kind of skills do you guys practise?..so far I have not been able to find more specific details!
Thanks!!

GLOC · January 17th, 2007, 02:54 PM

Have a look here (5thD-X Home Page - training@5thd-x.com) and then order a copy of their Fundementals DVD to see what should be done.

After that, find 2 like minded buddies and fly in a GUE instructor to take your Fundies class

Or take a holiday in the UK and do a class here!

duskdiver · January 17th, 2007, 02:57 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC)

Have a look here (5thD-X Home Page - training@5thd-x.com) and then order a copy of their Fundementals DVD to see what should be done.

After that, find 2 like minded buddies and fly in a GUE instructor to take your Fundies class

Or take a holiday in the UK and do a class here!

Thanks mate!!..but hollidays in the uk?..Sorry mate..bit cold!!
see if I can find someone here!!

**Howard Payne** · January 17th, 2007, 03:05 PM

What Gareth suggests is perfectly viable - flights are so cheap now. Someone like John Kendall who is a GUE Instructor on this board would happily fligh out to teach a course I'm sure flights to spain are so cheap now - it would add next to nothing to the cost.

In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil

duskdiver · January 17th, 2007, 03:12 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne)

What Gareth suggests is perfectly viable - flights are so cheap now. Someone like John Kendall who is a GUE Instructor on this board would happily fligh out to teach a course I'm sure flights to spain are so cheap now - it would add next to nothing to the cost.

In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil

That sounds better, in Spain, BTW, I was joking he,....
I am in the middle of an IDC now, but am very intersted...
will get back to you in a couple of weeks!!

*JohnKendall* · January 17th, 2007, 03:24 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne)

In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil

Oi! That's supposed to be a secret

Seriously though duskdiver, If you can find 3 or 4 people who want to do a Fundies course then I'm happy to travel to you to teach it. (Or I've got spaces on some courses at the moment in the UK and Finland)

Thanks

John

tim · January 17th, 2007, 06:50 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by duskdiver)

What kind of skills do you guys practise?..so far I have not been able to find more specific details!

Think it might have been AK suggested this one during fundies - clip a lit backup light to your front crotch D-ring and use that as a reference for your centre point to practise helicopter turns. Looks a bit dodgy in profile but the method works! Also useful as a gauge for how far you are off the bottom, keeping the light just out of the silt but not too far away, and if you're that close to silt it really shows up any stray hand waves or downward fin kicks, and notices badly if your trim is off or (my big sin recently) your knees are dropping.

Midwater ascent drills seem to be the other killer for me and my buddies and one of the more punishing things for buoyancy and finning. Keeping position as a team and keeping steady and nicely trimmed whilst ascending. Needless to say we're nowhere near there yet!

Tim

Joe Hesketh · January 17th, 2007, 08:45 PM

These might be a bit advanced but good for bouyancy control practice are the following three exercises (taught to me by Fred Devos)

1. Stick a pencil in the ground (or prefereable slightly off it, eg a ledge) then place a finger lightly on the tip of the pencil and try to hold station without moving postion (you can gently fin foward and back to correct).

2. As above, except keep your nose resting on the pencil (this is quite a bit more difficult).

3. find some smallish pebbles/rocks and try to balance them one on top of the other using one hand. If your bouyancy and positioning isn't spot on its very easy to keep knocking your pile over.

HTH
Joe

LCF · January 17th, 2007, 10:15 PM

Oh, Joe, cool ideas! Thanks for sharing them. Great ways to enliven an possibly otherwise rather drab local ramble.

duskdiver · January 18th, 2007, 12:44 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by duskdiver)

Thanks mate!!..but hollidays in the uk?..Sorry mate..bit cold!!
see if I can find someone here!!

Cool!!, I have watched the clips!!, this guy is amazing!! I want more of this!!

January 17th, 2007, 02:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
duskdiver(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 11	Finning and buoancy control exercises Guys, I have been on your site for a couple of days now!! Fantastic, I like it a lot , many things I read about, are things, I was missing in the system I was thought.(or am teaching) I have always been intersted in exercises that give me more control, perfect skills, fin work etc..I used to jump into the pool by myself and practise backward finning, inventing my own buoancy execises, doing skills in midwater etc......Other Instructors and Dm´s would look at me if I were... can I find something about fin work, buoancy control exercises or skills. What kind of skills do you guys practise?..so far I have not been able to find more specific details! Thanks!!

January 17th, 2007, 02:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOC(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,994	Have a look here (5thD-X Home Page - training@5thd-x.com) and then order a copy of their Fundementals DVD to see what should be done. After that, find 2 like minded buddies and fly in a GUE instructor to take your Fundies class Or take a holiday in the UK and do a class here! __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

January 17th, 2007, 02:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
duskdiver(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 11	Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC) Have a look here (5thD-X Home Page - training@5thd-x.com) and then order a copy of their Fundementals DVD to see what should be done. After that, find 2 like minded buddies and fly in a GUE instructor to take your Fundies class Or take a holiday in the UK and do a class here! Thanks mate!!..but hollidays in the uk?..Sorry mate..bit cold!! see if I can find someone here!! __________________ The worst thing is to get involved with people who aren't passionate about what they're doing. Willem Dafoe

January 17th, 2007, 03:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Howard Payne(Offline) Strokey Dokily Doo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,204	What Gareth suggests is perfectly viable - flights are so cheap now. Someone like John Kendall who is a GUE Instructor on this board would happily fligh out to teach a course I'm sure flights to spain are so cheap now - it would add next to nothing to the cost. In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil __________________ The Foxturd Chimp

January 17th, 2007, 03:12 PM	#5 (permalink)
duskdiver(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 11	Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne) What Gareth suggests is perfectly viable - flights are so cheap now. Someone like John Kendall who is a GUE Instructor on this board would happily fligh out to teach a course I'm sure flights to spain are so cheap now - it would add next to nothing to the cost. In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil That sounds better, in Spain, BTW, I was joking he,.... I am in the middle of an IDC now, but am very intersted... will get back to you in a couple of weeks!! __________________ The worst thing is to get involved with people who aren't passionate about what they're doing. Willem Dafoe

January 17th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
JohnKendall(Offline) GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,102	Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne) In fact he'll teach a course anywhere: Mogadishu, Baghdad, Kabul, Chechnya. Its a little known fact that he is actually the official GUE Instructor to the Axis Of Evil Oi! That's supposed to be a secret Seriously though duskdiver, If you can find 3 or 4 people who want to do a Fundies course then I'm happy to travel to you to teach it. (Or I've got spaces on some courses at the moment in the UK and Finland) Thanks John __________________ John Kendall http://www.guetraining.com/ GUE Instruction, Santi and Halcyon Equipment NEW - Online Santi Shop

January 17th, 2007, 06:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
tim(Offline) Big Grin Syndrome Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 455	Quote: (Originally Posted by duskdiver) What kind of skills do you guys practise?..so far I have not been able to find more specific details! Think it might have been AK suggested this one during fundies - clip a lit backup light to your front crotch D-ring and use that as a reference for your centre point to practise helicopter turns. Looks a bit dodgy in profile but the method works! Also useful as a gauge for how far you are off the bottom, keeping the light just out of the silt but not too far away, and if you're that close to silt it really shows up any stray hand waves or downward fin kicks, and notices badly if your trim is off or (my big sin recently) your knees are dropping. Midwater ascent drills seem to be the other killer for me and my buddies and one of the more punishing things for buoyancy and finning. Keeping position as a team and keeping steady and nicely trimmed whilst ascending. Needless to say we're nowhere near there yet! Tim

January 17th, 2007, 08:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Joe Hesketh(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 657	These might be a bit advanced but good for bouyancy control practice are the following three exercises (taught to me by Fred Devos) 1. Stick a pencil in the ground (or prefereable slightly off it, eg a ledge) then place a finger lightly on the tip of the pencil and try to hold station without moving postion (you can gently fin foward and back to correct). 2. As above, except keep your nose resting on the pencil (this is quite a bit more difficult). 3. find some smallish pebbles/rocks and try to balance them one on top of the other using one hand. If your bouyancy and positioning isn't spot on its very easy to keep knocking your pile over. HTH Joe

January 17th, 2007, 10:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
LCF(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 623	Oh, Joe, cool ideas! Thanks for sharing them. Great ways to enliven an possibly otherwise rather drab local ramble.

January 18th, 2007, 12:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
duskdiver(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 11	Quote: (Originally Posted by duskdiver) Thanks mate!!..but hollidays in the uk?..Sorry mate..bit cold!! see if I can find someone here!! Cool!!, I have watched the clips!!, this guy is amazing!! I want more of this!! __________________ The worst thing is to get involved with people who aren't passionate about what they're doing. Willem Dafoe