decent torch

scubajay · November 30th, 2005, 05:08 PM

I really want to complete my dive kit now that I have bought everything, but I am finding it hard to justify spending almost half what I did on a wing and twinset on a torch. Is there a way to get bright light and goodman handle for a price that wont require saving for months, or require me to eat happy shopper beans for 5 years?

Rick · November 30th, 2005, 05:13 PM

You'll find that your primary light will not only enhance your diving comfort and fun but it will form part of your essential kit.....i.e a wise investment!

Have a look at the 10w Helios 4.5 or equiv for about £400 which will get you in the water or the pro 3 or 6 without busting the bank and a bit cheaper using SLA technology.

Also check out the Knackers yard for other good Salvo deals, he may have something up his sleeve for Xmas http://www.divingniknaks.com

HTH

Divingniknaks · November 30th, 2005, 05:29 PM

Yep, as posted elsewhere here and on YD.

£395 for the 4.5A 10W Salvo, now thats a helluva lot of light for £395.

Now you get 4 hours burn time for that, versus the 2 hours burn time on the £345 SLA light that Rick quoted.

Just thought I'd point out where the 50 quid was.

You never know but one day your life may depend on a light signal, you want a light that can be seen if it does.

HTH

***EBT*** · November 30th, 2005, 05:47 PM

<cue aussie accent> "Call that a light?"
<deploy light saber> "Now thats a light!!"

You can pick up reasonable bargains second hand, if your budget is that tight.

Joe Hesketh · November 30th, 2005, 05:52 PM

There's always homebuild :D

Seriously though, the Airspeed Press book is well worth a read even if you end up buying a commercial product. The insight the book offers is, I found, invaluable to understanding and maintaining a can light.

Cheapest quality 4.5Ah 10W at the moment seems to be the Sea Elite. AFAIK this is made by Barry (it sure looks like one of his) but seems to be an exclusive deal as neither Barry nor Phill sell this model themselves (looks to be similar to the 18W fixed/twist lights but in the lower power). In the States this goes for $500 - see here.

As Rick said, certainly nothing wrong with SLA. The only caveat on the Pro 3 is the availability of the battery (SLA's need replacing more often than NiMH but they are dirt cheap). It uses a PowerSonic PS-1229 which they have discontinued. This is a 2.9Ah cell and the nearest capacity battery made by them (or any of the other makes, Yuasa, Panasonic, etc.) in the same dimensions is a 2.2Ah or so. So your Pro 3 may become a Pro 2

Rick · November 30th, 2005, 06:18 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by scubajay)

Phil: will the price on that torch (£395) stay like that, or is it a Xmas price?

scubajay · November 30th, 2005, 06:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

Yep, as posted elsewhere here and on YD.

£395 for the 4.5A 10W Salvo, now thats a helluva lot of light for £395.

Now you get 4 hours burn time for that, versus the 2 hours burn time on the £345 SLA light that Rick quoted.

Just thought I'd point out where the 50 quid was.

You never know but one day your life may depend on a light signal, you want a light that can be seen if it does.

HTH

Now thats more like it. I can see being able to afford that.......is this just a crimbo price, or will it stay like this?

Divingniknaks · November 30th, 2005, 09:14 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh)

Cheapest quality 4.5Ah 10W at the moment seems to be the Sea Elite. AFAIK this is made by Barry (it sure looks like one of his) but seems to be an exclusive deal as neither Barry nor Phill sell this model themselves (looks to be similar to the 18W fixed/twist lights but in the lower power).

Joe, indeed it is made by Barry. It is however a FIXED focus light.

Cheers

November 30th, 2005, 05:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
scubajay(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Great Totham, Essex Posts: 59	decent torch I really want to complete my dive kit now that I have bought everything, but I am finding it hard to justify spending almost half what I did on a wing and twinset on a torch. Is there a way to get bright light and goodman handle for a price that wont require saving for months, or require me to eat happy shopper beans for 5 years? __________________ We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. 20,000mm Under the Sea

November 30th, 2005, 05:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rick(Offline) Jock Exley Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Falkirk/Stratford UK Posts: 730	You'll find that your primary light will not only enhance your diving comfort and fun but it will form part of your essential kit.....i.e a wise investment! Have a look at the 10w Helios 4.5 or equiv for about £400 which will get you in the water or the pro 3 or 6 without busting the bank and a bit cheaper using SLA technology. Also check out the Knackers yard for other good Salvo deals, he may have something up his sleeve for Xmas http://www.divingniknaks.com HTH __________________ Forget Everything And Remember http://phreaticzone.thedeepstop.com/ http://www.dublinbaydiving.com/

November 30th, 2005, 05:29 PM	#3 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Yep, as posted elsewhere here and on YD. £395 for the 4.5A 10W Salvo, now thats a helluva lot of light for £395. Now you get 4 hours burn time for that, versus the 2 hours burn time on the £345 SLA light that Rick quoted. Just thought I'd point out where the 50 quid was. You never know but one day your life may depend on a light signal, you want a light that can be seen if it does. HTH __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com Last edited by Divingniknaks; November 30th, 2005 at 05:40 PM.

November 30th, 2005, 06:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Rick(Offline) Jock Exley Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Falkirk/Stratford UK Posts: 730	Quote: (Originally Posted by scubajay) Phil: will the price on that torch (£395) stay like that, or is it a Xmas price? <Cue the hard sell> __________________ Forget Everything And Remember http://phreaticzone.thedeepstop.com/ http://www.dublinbaydiving.com/

November 30th, 2005, 06:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
scubajay(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Great Totham, Essex Posts: 59	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) Yep, as posted elsewhere here and on YD. £395 for the 4.5A 10W Salvo, now thats a helluva lot of light for £395. Now you get 4 hours burn time for that, versus the 2 hours burn time on the £345 SLA light that Rick quoted. Just thought I'd point out where the 50 quid was. You never know but one day your life may depend on a light signal, you want a light that can be seen if it does. HTH Now thats more like it. I can see being able to afford that.......is this just a crimbo price, or will it stay like this? __________________ We can't all be heroes because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by. 20,000mm Under the Sea

November 30th, 2005, 05:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
*EBT*(Offline) Just another crouton... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 413	<cue aussie accent> "Call that a light?" <deploy light saber> "Now thats a light!!" You can pick up reasonable bargains second hand, if your budget is that tight.

November 30th, 2005, 05:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
Joe Hesketh(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 657	There's always homebuild :D Seriously though, the Airspeed Press book is well worth a read even if you end up buying a commercial product. The insight the book offers is, I found, invaluable to understanding and maintaining a can light. Cheapest quality 4.5Ah 10W at the moment seems to be the Sea Elite. AFAIK this is made by Barry (it sure looks like one of his) but seems to be an exclusive deal as neither Barry nor Phill sell this model themselves (looks to be similar to the 18W fixed/twist lights but in the lower power). In the States this goes for $500 - see here. As Rick said, certainly nothing wrong with SLA. The only caveat on the Pro 3 is the availability of the battery (SLA's need replacing more often than NiMH but they are dirt cheap). It uses a PowerSonic PS-1229 which they have discontinued. This is a 2.9Ah cell and the nearest capacity battery made by them (or any of the other makes, Yuasa, Panasonic, etc.) in the same dimensions is a 2.2Ah or so. So your Pro 3 may become a Pro 2

November 30th, 2005, 09:14 PM	#8 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh) Cheapest quality 4.5Ah 10W at the moment seems to be the Sea Elite. AFAIK this is made by Barry (it sure looks like one of his) but seems to be an exclusive deal as neither Barry nor Phill sell this model themselves (looks to be similar to the 18W fixed/twist lights but in the lower power). Joe, indeed it is made by Barry. It is however a FIXED focus light. Cheers __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com