OK i now only have one excuse left :D

Mark Chase · December 19th, 2006, 11:34 PM

My shiney new Santi MTM under suit arrived today and i cant wait to go play. Sadly that wont be till the 27th coz of bloody Christmas but hay ho

Any how it fits really well and Feels good with stretching exercises in front of the bathroom mirror which is about as close to water as i am going to get for a little while

So thats the under suit excuse gone for why i cant do shutdowns. I have tried everything else so if this doesn't work i only have the front mounted dry suit zip to go before I have to admit defeat and give up on the idea of DIR training for OC diving. Even cheating and freezing my arse off just wearing a base layer during DIRF didn't really work. I think Rich described the shut downs as painfully slow. Little did he know they were actually bloody painful full stop. My elbow was competing with my shoulder for which could deliver the most pain. The cramp in my hand won.

So wish me luck. I shall soon be jumping in a puddle and having a go.

ATB

Mark Chase

ATB

Mark Chase

GLOC · December 19th, 2006, 11:44 PM

When you get in Mark, I would seriously consider getting your buddy to take a camera to film you, even if it is something like a Oly5050 with .mov capability. That way you can see what you need to do and what isn't working.

Good luck...

Digger · December 19th, 2006, 11:50 PM

Mark,

My video rig is up and running now. If you want a cameraman for the day I could do with the practice too. You'll know if you can get there I think though.

Personally I just think you're medically not fit to dive at all.

Digs.

**jb2cool** · December 19th, 2006, 11:53 PM

What Santi suit did you go for in the end? the 200 or the 400? I'm still wondering in my Xerotherm Arctics (+ base layers) will be up to the job or whether i'd be better off with a 'proper' undersuit.

Mark Chase · December 20th, 2006, 12:14 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool)

What Santi suit did you go for in the end? the 200 or the 400? I'm still wondering in my Xerotherm Arctics (+ base layers) will be up to the job or whether i'd be better off with a 'proper' undersuit.

I got the 200 as i already have a 400g DUI. I was also hoping the 200 would alow a bit more movement under my existing dry suit as with the 400 on I strugle to sort out my neck seel

We shall see.

ATB

Mark Chase

Mark Chase · December 20th, 2006, 12:15 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Digger)

Mark,

My video rig is up and running now. If you want a cameraman for the day I could do with the practice too. You'll know if you can get there I think though.

Personally I just think you're medically not fit to dive at all.

Digs.

Hi Diggs, that would be great How bout Stony in January?

ATB

Mark Chase

**Alastair** · December 20th, 2006, 12:20 AM

Quick question. If you sit in your ordinary clothes on the floor with your twinset behind you can you do a valve drill?

Worth a try as it tells you whether its your shoulders/arms that are the problem or gear/technique.

Cheers
Al

Mark Chase · December 20th, 2006, 12:32 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Alastair)

Quick question. If you sit in your ordinary clothes on the floor with your twinset behind you can you do a valve drill?

Worth a try as it tells you whether its your shoulders/arms that are the problem or gear/technique.

Cheers
Ak

I can do it much easier obviously. Far more freedom of movement. I am told my problem is I am barrel chested. I have a 45inch chest which is only 14 inches wide from left to right armpit. I also have a totally smashed left elbow with a 12 degree increased carrying angle, a 20 degree dislocation of the anycraylon process and a 5 degree over bend

So basically Diggers assessment is pretty accurate :D

ATB

Mark Chase

**Alastair** · December 20th, 2006, 12:43 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

I can do it much easier obviously. Far more freedom of movement. I am told my problem is I am barrel chested. I have a 45inch chest which is only 14 inches wide from left to right armpit. I also have a totally smashed left elbow with a 12 degree increased carrying angle, a 20 degree dislocation of the anycraylon process and a 5 degree over bend

So basically Diggers assessment is pretty accurate :D

ATB

Mark Chase

Well if it works without the suit then it does suggest it's possible. Good luck with the new undersuit. One thing that might help is some shoulder stretches:

http://www.divefitness.com/html/arti...ld_stretch.pdf

Worth a try.

Cheers
Al

Mark Chase · December 20th, 2006, 01:15 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Alastair)

Well if it works without the suit then it does suggest it's possible. Good luck with the new undersuit. One thing that might help is some shoulder stretches:

http://www.divefitness.com/html/arti...ld_stretch.pdf

Worth a try.

Cheers
Al

Great link thanks

ATB

Mark Chase

December 19th, 2006, 11:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	OK i now only have one excuse left :D My shiney new Santi MTM under suit arrived today and i cant wait to go play. Sadly that wont be till the 27th coz of bloody Christmas but hay ho Any how it fits really well and Feels good with stretching exercises in front of the bathroom mirror which is about as close to water as i am going to get for a little while So thats the under suit excuse gone for why i cant do shutdowns. I have tried everything else so if this doesn't work i only have the front mounted dry suit zip to go before I have to admit defeat and give up on the idea of DIR training for OC diving. Even cheating and freezing my arse off just wearing a base layer during DIRF didn't really work. I think Rich described the shut downs as painfully slow. Little did he know they were actually bloody painful full stop. My elbow was competing with my shoulder for which could deliver the most pain. The cramp in my hand won. So wish me luck. I shall soon be jumping in a puddle and having a go. ATB Mark Chase ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

December 19th, 2006, 11:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOC(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,963	When you get in Mark, I would seriously consider getting your buddy to take a camera to film you, even if it is something like a Oly5050 with .mov capability. That way you can see what you need to do and what isn't working. Good luck... __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

December 19th, 2006, 11:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
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December 20th, 2006, 12:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool) What Santi suit did you go for in the end? the 200 or the 400? I'm still wondering in my Xerotherm Arctics (+ base layers) will be up to the job or whether i'd be better off with a 'proper' undersuit. I got the 200 as i already have a 400g DUI. I was also hoping the 200 would alow a bit more movement under my existing dry suit as with the 400 on I strugle to sort out my neck seel We shall see. ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

December 20th, 2006, 12:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by Digger) Mark, My video rig is up and running now. If you want a cameraman for the day I could do with the practice too. You'll know if you can get there I think though. Personally I just think you're medically not fit to dive at all. Digs. Hi Diggs, that would be great How bout Stony in January? ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

December 19th, 2006, 11:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Digger(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Midlands Posts: 122	Mark, My video rig is up and running now. If you want a cameraman for the day I could do with the practice too. You'll know if you can get there I think though. Personally I just think you're medically not fit to dive at all. Digs.

December 20th, 2006, 12:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
Alastair(Offline) DIRX Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 693	Quick question. If you sit in your ordinary clothes on the floor with your twinset behind you can you do a valve drill? Worth a try as it tells you whether its your shoulders/arms that are the problem or gear/technique. Cheers Al __________________ Helium is our friend - GI3 Last edited by Alastair; December 20th, 2006 at 12:40 AM.

December 20th, 2006, 12:32 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by Alastair) Quick question. If you sit in your ordinary clothes on the floor with your twinset behind you can you do a valve drill? Worth a try as it tells you whether its your shoulders/arms that are the problem or gear/technique. Cheers Ak I can do it much easier obviously. Far more freedom of movement. I am told my problem is I am barrel chested. I have a 45inch chest which is only 14 inches wide from left to right armpit. I also have a totally smashed left elbow with a 12 degree increased carrying angle, a 20 degree dislocation of the anycraylon process and a 5 degree over bend So basically Diggers assessment is pretty accurate :D ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

December 20th, 2006, 12:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
Alastair(Offline) DIRX Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 693	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) I can do it much easier obviously. Far more freedom of movement. I am told my problem is I am barrel chested. I have a 45inch chest which is only 14 inches wide from left to right armpit. I also have a totally smashed left elbow with a 12 degree increased carrying angle, a 20 degree dislocation of the anycraylon process and a 5 degree over bend So basically Diggers assessment is pretty accurate :D ATB Mark Chase Well if it works without the suit then it does suggest it's possible. Good luck with the new undersuit. One thing that might help is some shoulder stretches: http://www.divefitness.com/html/arti...ld_stretch.pdf Worth a try. Cheers Al __________________ Helium is our friend - GI3

December 20th, 2006, 01:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by Alastair) Well if it works without the suit then it does suggest it's possible. Good luck with the new undersuit. One thing that might help is some shoulder stretches: http://www.divefitness.com/html/arti...ld_stretch.pdf Worth a try. Cheers Al Great link thanks ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village