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September 22nd, 2006, 06:23 PM
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  |  Space-Age Undersuit I was browsing over at the Rubicon Foundation and came across this. You have to register to be able to down the actual NEDU report. http://www.rubicon-foundation.org:80...123456789/3487 The Navy testing looks pretty thorough compared to most recreational reviews. You certainly wouldn’t get John Bantin sitting in a tank of 2°C water for 147 minutes with a thermometer up his ass! I understand this was also mentioned at the DUI presentation at last year’s GUE conference (though I wasn’t there). Looks very promising, though I found something somewhere else that suggested that if the Aerogel suit went into production now it would be about 10 times as expensive as C4 thinsulate! Joe |
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September 23rd, 2006, 07:50 PM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh)  The Navy testing looks pretty thorough compared to most recreational reviews. You certainly wouldn’t get John Bantin sitting in a tank of 2°C water for 147 minutes with a thermometer up his ass! Well he's had 20 years experience of having his own head stuck up there! |
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September 25th, 2006, 04:12 PM
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| Space-Age Undersuit I am glad you are finding the site useful and interesting. Attached are two files from Lew Nuckols. Lew has been a driving force behind the research of Aerogel for the US Navy. DUI has played a VERY big role in development of this product (as they do most of the military thermal protection projects). "Attached are two photos that you might post. One shows the appearance of the aerogel monolith that gets impregnated into the diving suit. The other shows a pre-production garment being dressed out on a thermal manikin to measure insulation values. We confirmed last month that the aerogel garment had 76% higher insulation than a commercial M400 Thinsulate garment. The Navy is currently diving these garments in extreme cold missions and the feedback is very positive."
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September 25th, 2006, 04:32 PM
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| Cool stuff. Thanks for that Gene and welcome to the forum! Good work with the foundation BTW, it's a gold mine. When I came across the Aerogel stuff, I was actually looking for the original Navy report on insulation (the one that GI3 always refers to that put C4 out front). Don't suppose that's in your list of stuff to be scanned in? Cheers Joe |
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December 12th, 2006, 12:47 AM
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| I was just going through this and I have found that this is one of the coolest things I have evr seen. The amount of technology that is crammed into that suit is impressive.
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December 12th, 2006, 04:01 AM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by floater) Are these suits expensive to prudoce in general, or say compared to say M400 thinsulate? They are a few thousand US now because they have to be made by hand in a clean room. It will get better once the final system is in place.
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December 12th, 2006, 04:29 AM
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 | [quote=Gene_Hobbs;31301]They are a few thousand US now because they have to be made by hand in a clean room. It will get better once the final system is in place.[/quote Is there a date for when that will be? It's almost chainsaw season again here. |
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December 12th, 2006, 04:48 AM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by K Ripley) Is there a date for when that will be? It's almost chainsaw season again here. 
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December 12th, 2006, 06:00 AM
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh) You certainly wouldn’t get John Bantin sitting in a tank of 2°C water for 147 minutes with a thermometer up his ass! Maybe we should ask 
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