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Old November 28th, 2005, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Recreational DIR diving...

I haven't really thought about tis in any great details so there feel free to kick me if there is an obvious answer.

With the advent of a GUE OW course what is going to be taught with respect to tables and I guess specifically multilevel dives?

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Old November 28th, 2005, 02:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This brings us nicely to the discussion our bunch are having. If you are diving to NDL limits (which tables/limits?), what is the DIR way of working out your BT, especially for multi-level dives such as a training dive in V, NDAC or Stoney?

Everyone use a computer with the same algorithm (Suunto prob as being most popular), set to the same conservation limit and dive accordingly? If you dive a wreck, use a square profile from a table/cutsheet, again which table or cutsheets?

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Old November 28th, 2005, 02:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There will be some discussion about Deco, and specifically Minimum Deco dives. I don't know exactly the detail of this, but it is likely to also be added into Fundies at the same time.

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Old November 28th, 2005, 02:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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That is nice to know as I have fundies planned for next year. But until then, is there a DIR way of doing NDL dives? Having just run some figures through various models to work out a 30m dive with 32% I get.

USN (Unmodified) - 40mins
PADI - 40mins (AIUI PADI are USN but slightly modified)
USN (Dop Mod'd) - 30mins
V-Planner (+2 cons) - 50mins
V-Planner (+4 cons) - 39mins
Suunto (RGBM) - 42mins

So 40 mins would be a good figure for a square dive, but what about multi-level knowing how difficult it is to pre-dive judge depths/times for multi-level dive calculations (and that isn't just my bouyancy control )

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I tend to use these...

http://dir-diver.com/pdf/minimum-dec...h_metric_A.pdf

That said is there a route to doing deco with GUE that doesn't involve Tech1?

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That is nice to know as I have fundies planned for next year. But until then, is there a DIR way of doing NDL dives? Having just run some figures through various models to work out a 30m dive with 32% I get.

USN (Unmodified) - 40mins
PADI - 40mins (AIUI PADI are USN but slightly modified)
USN (Dop Mod'd) - 30mins
V-Planner (+2 cons) - 50mins
V-Planner (+4 cons) - 39mins
Suunto (RGBM) - 42mins

So 40 mins would be a good figure for a square dive, but what about multi-level knowing how difficult it is to pre-dive judge depths/times for multi-level dive calculations (and that isn't just my bouyancy control )

Thanks
For something like 30@30m I'd do Minimum Deco, so

30m 30min
15m Pause
12m 1min
9m 1min
6m 1min
Slow Ascent

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I tend to use these...

http://dir-diver.com/pdf/minimum-dec...h_metric_A.pdf

That said is there a route to doing deco with GUE that doesn't involve Tech1?

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I tend to use these...

http://dir-diver.com/pdf/minimum-dec...h_metric_A.pdf

That said is there a route to doing deco with GUE that doesn't involve Tech1?

Gavin
No. Not really. Basically as you start getting into more Deco you need to think more about bail-out, what gasses etc. That is what Tech1 is.

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