Interesting Magazine

Martin Burnard · December 31st, 2006, 01:10 PM

Flower and I have subscibed to "Ultra fit" for many years.

Full of info and the latest updates on training, nutrition etc. It's published 8 times per year.

Web site is Ultra-FIT Magazine

Not aimed at divers but has loads of info on fitness in general.

Happy reading for those interested.

DanPartelly · December 31st, 2006, 02:11 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard)

Flower and I have subscibed to "Ultra fit" for many years.

Full of info and the latest updates on training, nutrition etc. It's published 8 times per year.

Web site is Ultra-FIT Magazine

Not aimed at divers but has loads of info on fitness in general.

Happy reading for those interested.

This kind of magazines are usally full with bullshit, idiotic advices, speculations of deluded minds, PTs which cant see beyound a bodybuilding type workout, shitloads of pages dedicate to fat loose, fitness whithout sweating , and articles written by ppl which talk the talk but can't walk the walk.

Buy a single good book on exercise physiology and probably youll gain more insight on human peformance then the whole collection to date of such a magazine, plus the numbers which will come out in the next 10 years.

GLOC · December 31st, 2006, 04:24 PM

Well, thats you told then Martin

The hardest part about getting physically fit is getting the mental attitude sorted...

Martin Burnard · December 31st, 2006, 06:18 PM

Interesting Dan.

Have you looked at the magazine?

Or was that a generalisation... the same sort of problem we have with DIR being seen as self oppionated buffoons who merely follow a prescribed course of action without question or thought?

You may be correct.. you may not.

A few quotes from the latest issue

"Your number one weapon against fat, is not a low calorie diet, but exercise."

The article is considering "the chemical thermodynamics of fat burning".

Another article is considering "The role of insulin in glucose metabolism".

And just to show a bit of variation one of the articles is

"Diving the Cayman Isalnds"!

I agree good text are an excellent source, not always written in bite size pieces.

Our library contains various sports text ranging from "Womans Strength Training Anotomy" by Frederic Delavier

through "Food for sport" by Karen Inge & Christine Roberts

and onto "Nutrition for Dummies".

A small selection but not as easily read as a good magazine.

If your response was based on your reading of the magazine then I have no issue, we are all entiltled to our informed oppinions.

If you have not read the magazine, then we have the problem of an uninformed generalisation.

Either way I am off for my Dinner (roast pork).

Ok you said usually.... so I'll jump off my soap box (Sorry.. must rember to read things properly).

DanPartelly · December 31st, 2006, 07:30 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard)

Interesting Dan.

Have you looked at the magazine?

Or was that a generalisation... the same sort of problem we have with DIR being seen as self oppionated buffoons who merely follow a prescribed course of action without question or thought?

You may be correct.. you may not.

A few quotes from the latest issue

"Your number one weapon against fat, is not a low calorie diet, but exercise."

The article is considering "the chemical thermodynamics of fat burning".

Another article is considering "The role of insulin in glucose metabolism".

And just to show a bit of variation one of the articles is

"Diving the Cayman Isalnds"!

I agree good text are an excellent source, not always written in bite size pieces.

Our library contains various sports text ranging from "Womans Strength Training Anotomy" by Frederic Delavier

through "Food for sport" by Karen Inge & Christine Roberts

and onto "Nutrition for Dummies".

A small selection but not as easily read as a good magazine.

If your response was based on your reading of the magazine then I have no issue, we are all entiltled to our informed oppinions.

If you have not read the magazine, then we have the problem of an uninformed generalisation.

Either way I am off for my Dinner (roast pork).

Ok you said usually.... so I'll jump off my soap box (Sorry.. must rember to read things properly).

I looked at it. I wasnt impressed. If you want a journal Crossfit journal is better. If you want to really know how stuff works, nothing will beat some books dedicated to the science of stregtn, conditioning, exercise physiology.

jerry.mobbs · January 1st, 2007, 06:39 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by DanPartelly)

This kind of magazines are usally full with bullshit, idiotic advices,

Dan,

Wow, one of the good things about this list is the generally civilised tone of the debate. I doubt you'll convince anyone with posts like that..

Anyway, you and I are probably on the same page, but we wont help ourselves by imagining we are back on techdiver in the late 90s. Even worse, people that just lurk and read the posts will not be tempted to read the stuff you put in the time to write.

Have a great new year.

Jerry

PS Martin, Dans right, UF is c@£p, I'll email you some stuff in the New Year for you to read. ;-)

DanPartelly · January 1st, 2007, 11:17 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jerry.mobbs)

Dan,

Wow, one of the good things about this list is the generally civilized tone of the debate. I doubt you'll convince anyone with posts like that..

Maybe is just wishful thinking, but I want to believe that my post was civilized
and respectful towards the OP, and the chain of adjectives I used its just an accurate reflection of the landscape in fitness industry today, and it wasnt used to hurt or attack anyone. As for convincing anyone with my posts, Im not here to convince anyone. I present information which best to my knowledge is accurate, I will never try to mislead anyone on purpose or con him into doing things which I didnt tried personally. What readers do with the info, is for them to decide. It doesnt change anything for me.

Many ppl unfortunately buy to much into what fitness industry offers them. The second sport became a mainstream industry, with periodicals, journals
big supplement sales, a lot of promotion , modern chrome-nickel gyms with less and less free weights and more and more machines , and implicitly , a big appetite for profit , and for customers from all age groups and mentalities , was the second in which truth and decency was lost and scientific truth was reshaped , into a pseudo –exercise science, designed mainly for generating income, and not human performance.

Martin, if you are interested in fitness, I can recommend you some good readings on the subject on any level you prefer. Bee it heavily scientific readings which will give you enough knowledge in time to design your own programs , knowledge of the many faces of strength and conditioning and human exercise physiology , or books with ready to use advices , exercise selection and programs.

I can understand ppl’s reluctance to read books, cause as you said Martin, they are not like a periodical in which you get bricks of “cool” information one piece of a time,
But unfortunately human performance sciences are integrative sciences, and the best way to look at them is in a holistic manner.

Martin Burnard · January 1st, 2007, 04:53 PM

Intersting idea with reagrds the position of Ultrafit in the magazine and facts presentation stakes.

Looking at the general drivel on the shelves today such as "mens Fitness" which should be called how many bottles of creatin can we sell, and the others on display all appeared similair, Ultrafit "appears" to be more scientifically based and is indeed more detailed in its depth.

This would then lead me to a problem.. Ultrafit is as detailed as I am comfortable reading. More in depth information would render me dis-interested.

So do I read less of more or more of less? Oh decisions.

In the meantime I'll stick to my 3 different colour veg and some protein with my main meal, cereal + toast+ fruit for breakfast, and pasta/rice sandwiches for a snack. Cross training (Squash, weights, swimming, running) through the week... and of course some diving. It works for the moment.

All the best folks

Martin.

DanPartelly · January 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard)

This would then lead me to a problem.. Ultrafit is as detailed as I am comfortable reading. More in depth information would render me dis-interested.

So do I read less of more or more of less? Oh decisions.

Thens stick with Crossfit journal and youll gain more , while maintaining the same format of "little" gulps of knowledge. Ultrafit is crap.

PFM · January 1st, 2007, 09:51 PM

May I interject with (hopefully) a little assistance - my background is Sport Science (BSc Hons).

There are some particuarly poor Fitness magazines on the market that buy into the "latest & greatest" approach to exercise physiology. I have not read ultrafit magazine so will decline to comment on where it sits on the Scientific Credibility Scale - Im sure it will have a number of qualified writers on its books, but IMHO editorial rights often skew articles to maintain the greatest range of interest.

Have a look on fleabay or other such like and try to obtain a (even 2nd hand) copy of Human Performance & Exercise Physiology by MacCardle Katch & Katch (not sure I have spelt their names correctly). New its about 35 quid, s/hand expect to pay £20-25. Although any General Ex. Phys. text book will give you a start point.

It is a reasonable read and a very useful reference text. Well worth a couple of quid over a magazine subscription.

Hope this helps

December 31st, 2006, 01:10 PM	#1 (permalink)
Martin Burnard(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 580	Interesting Magazine Flower and I have subscibed to "Ultra fit" for many years. Full of info and the latest updates on training, nutrition etc. It's published 8 times per year. Web site is Ultra-FIT Magazine Not aimed at divers but has loads of info on fitness in general. Happy reading for those interested. __________________ I once enjoyed a sado-masachistic frenzy of total tintintabulation leading to a state of metampsychosis... or did I make that up? www.bananafrogcars.co.uk

December 31st, 2006, 02:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
DanPartelly(Offline) New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 147	Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard) Flower and I have subscibed to "Ultra fit" for many years. Full of info and the latest updates on training, nutrition etc. It's published 8 times per year. Web site is Ultra-FIT Magazine Not aimed at divers but has loads of info on fitness in general. Happy reading for those interested. This kind of magazines are usally full with bullshit, idiotic advices, speculations of deluded minds, PTs which cant see beyound a bodybuilding type workout, shitloads of pages dedicate to fat loose, fitness whithout sweating , and articles written by ppl which talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Buy a single good book on exercise physiology and probably youll gain more insight on human peformance then the whole collection to date of such a magazine, plus the numbers which will come out in the next 10 years. Last edited by DanPartelly; December 31st, 2006 at 02:15 PM.

December 31st, 2006, 04:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,963	Well, thats you told then Martin The hardest part about getting physically fit is getting the mental attitude sorted... __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

December 31st, 2006, 06:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Martin Burnard(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 580	Interesting Dan. Have you looked at the magazine? Or was that a generalisation... the same sort of problem we have with DIR being seen as self oppionated buffoons who merely follow a prescribed course of action without question or thought? You may be correct.. you may not. A few quotes from the latest issue "Your number one weapon against fat, is not a low calorie diet, but exercise." The article is considering "the chemical thermodynamics of fat burning". Another article is considering "The role of insulin in glucose metabolism". And just to show a bit of variation one of the articles is "Diving the Cayman Isalnds"! I agree good text are an excellent source, not always written in bite size pieces. Our library contains various sports text ranging from "Womans Strength Training Anotomy" by Frederic Delavier through "Food for sport" by Karen Inge & Christine Roberts and onto "Nutrition for Dummies". A small selection but not as easily read as a good magazine. If your response was based on your reading of the magazine then I have no issue, we are all entiltled to our informed oppinions. If you have not read the magazine, then we have the problem of an uninformed generalisation. Either way I am off for my Dinner (roast pork). Ok you said usually.... so I'll jump off my soap box (Sorry.. must rember to read things properly). __________________ I once enjoyed a sado-masachistic frenzy of total tintintabulation leading to a state of metampsychosis... or did I make that up? www.bananafrogcars.co.uk Last edited by Martin Burnard; December 31st, 2006 at 06:19 PM. Reason: Read the reply properly!

January 1st, 2007, 06:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
jerry.mobbs(Offline) New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: asia Posts: 288	Quote: (Originally Posted by DanPartelly) This kind of magazines are usally full with bullshit, idiotic advices, Dan, Wow, one of the good things about this list is the generally civilised tone of the debate. I doubt you'll convince anyone with posts like that.. Anyway, you and I are probably on the same page, but we wont help ourselves by imagining we are back on techdiver in the late 90s. Even worse, people that just lurk and read the posts will not be tempted to read the stuff you put in the time to write. Have a great new year. Jerry PS Martin, Dans right, UF is c@£p, I'll email you some stuff in the New Year for you to read. ;-) __________________ -------------------- www.crossfit.com The DIR of Fitness

December 31st, 2006, 07:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
DanPartelly(Offline) New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 147	Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard) Interesting Dan. Have you looked at the magazine? Or was that a generalisation... the same sort of problem we have with DIR being seen as self oppionated buffoons who merely follow a prescribed course of action without question or thought? You may be correct.. you may not. A few quotes from the latest issue "Your number one weapon against fat, is not a low calorie diet, but exercise." The article is considering "the chemical thermodynamics of fat burning". Another article is considering "The role of insulin in glucose metabolism". And just to show a bit of variation one of the articles is "Diving the Cayman Isalnds"! I agree good text are an excellent source, not always written in bite size pieces. Our library contains various sports text ranging from "Womans Strength Training Anotomy" by Frederic Delavier through "Food for sport" by Karen Inge & Christine Roberts and onto "Nutrition for Dummies". A small selection but not as easily read as a good magazine. If your response was based on your reading of the magazine then I have no issue, we are all entiltled to our informed oppinions. If you have not read the magazine, then we have the problem of an uninformed generalisation. Either way I am off for my Dinner (roast pork). Ok you said usually.... so I'll jump off my soap box (Sorry.. must rember to read things properly). I looked at it. I wasnt impressed. If you want a journal Crossfit journal is better. If you want to really know how stuff works, nothing will beat some books dedicated to the science of stregtn, conditioning, exercise physiology.

January 1st, 2007, 11:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
DanPartelly(Offline) New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 147	Quote: (Originally Posted by jerry.mobbs) Dan, Wow, one of the good things about this list is the generally civilized tone of the debate. I doubt you'll convince anyone with posts like that.. Maybe is just wishful thinking, but I want to believe that my post was civilized and respectful towards the OP, and the chain of adjectives I used its just an accurate reflection of the landscape in fitness industry today, and it wasnt used to hurt or attack anyone. As for convincing anyone with my posts, Im not here to convince anyone. I present information which best to my knowledge is accurate, I will never try to mislead anyone on purpose or con him into doing things which I didnt tried personally. What readers do with the info, is for them to decide. It doesnt change anything for me. Many ppl unfortunately buy to much into what fitness industry offers them. The second sport became a mainstream industry, with periodicals, journals big supplement sales, a lot of promotion , modern chrome-nickel gyms with less and less free weights and more and more machines , and implicitly , a big appetite for profit , and for customers from all age groups and mentalities , was the second in which truth and decency was lost and scientific truth was reshaped , into a pseudo –exercise science, designed mainly for generating income, and not human performance. Martin, if you are interested in fitness, I can recommend you some good readings on the subject on any level you prefer. Bee it heavily scientific readings which will give you enough knowledge in time to design your own programs , knowledge of the many faces of strength and conditioning and human exercise physiology , or books with ready to use advices , exercise selection and programs. I can understand ppl’s reluctance to read books, cause as you said Martin, they are not like a periodical in which you get bricks of “cool” information one piece of a time, But unfortunately human performance sciences are integrative sciences, and the best way to look at them is in a holistic manner. Last edited by DanPartelly; January 1st, 2007 at 11:41 AM.

January 1st, 2007, 04:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Martin Burnard(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 580	Intersting idea with reagrds the position of Ultrafit in the magazine and facts presentation stakes. Looking at the general drivel on the shelves today such as "mens Fitness" which should be called how many bottles of creatin can we sell, and the others on display all appeared similair, Ultrafit "appears" to be more scientifically based and is indeed more detailed in its depth. This would then lead me to a problem.. Ultrafit is as detailed as I am comfortable reading. More in depth information would render me dis-interested. So do I read less of more or more of less? Oh decisions. In the meantime I'll stick to my 3 different colour veg and some protein with my main meal, cereal + toast+ fruit for breakfast, and pasta/rice sandwiches for a snack. Cross training (Squash, weights, swimming, running) through the week... and of course some diving. It works for the moment. All the best folks Martin. __________________ I once enjoyed a sado-masachistic frenzy of total tintintabulation leading to a state of metampsychosis... or did I make that up? www.bananafrogcars.co.uk

January 1st, 2007, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
DanPartelly(Offline) New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 147	Quote: (Originally Posted by Martin Burnard) This would then lead me to a problem.. Ultrafit is as detailed as I am comfortable reading. More in depth information would render me dis-interested. So do I read less of more or more of less? Oh decisions. Thens stick with Crossfit journal and youll gain more , while maintaining the same format of "little" gulps of knowledge. Ultrafit is crap.

January 1st, 2007, 09:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
PFM(Offline) Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Humberside Posts: 105	May I interject with (hopefully) a little assistance - my background is Sport Science (BSc Hons). There are some particuarly poor Fitness magazines on the market that buy into the "latest & greatest" approach to exercise physiology. I have not read ultrafit magazine so will decline to comment on where it sits on the Scientific Credibility Scale - Im sure it will have a number of qualified writers on its books, but IMHO editorial rights often skew articles to maintain the greatest range of interest. Have a look on fleabay or other such like and try to obtain a (even 2nd hand) copy of Human Performance & Exercise Physiology by MacCardle Katch & Katch (not sure I have spelt their names correctly). New its about 35 quid, s/hand expect to pay £20-25. Although any General Ex. Phys. text book will give you a start point. It is a reasonable read and a very useful reference text. Well worth a couple of quid over a magazine subscription. Hope this helps __________________ On the long swim to Tech1...