Lot, France, October/November 2005

Harald Franzen · January 3rd, 2006, 05:59 PM

Not sure where to post this, but it *is* a trip report, although in video format.

As I introduced myself here on DIR-X Teppo from Finland "overheard" me say something about a DVD...

Well, I could hardly post that up on the internet, so I've made a 5 minutes 43 seconds "short version" of it and thanks to Al from the UK, who's got some HD space and bandwith left, so I can share it with you.

We've tried it in IE 6.x and it works well; with Firefox, it didn't, so you might start IE or try "right click and save" for this 10,7 MB (!) wmv-file.

This short excerpt features some shots from the Ressel and Landenouse; the 1+ hour DVD also hosts St. Georges, Trou Madame and Cabouy.

Incidentally, I did a Dutch as well as an English voice over and subtitles in both languages on the DVD and audio comes in stereo and Dolby 5.1, so if you're interested in getting the entire DVD; write me a PM.

Enjoy and let me know what you think !

Here it is: http://odie.al.star.co.uk/cavelot2005.wmv

Best,

Harald
p.s.: thanks again to Teppo for the idea and to Al for the hosting !!!

**godivingbelgium** · January 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM

Damn, this is the trip I missed! Next time I'm coming along!

See you soon to watch the full video.

Winnie

Danny · January 3rd, 2006, 07:37 PM

Nice filming,gives a nice impression of the caves!!

Teppo · January 3rd, 2006, 08:03 PM

Hi Harald

Cool Video, i liked the wire model of Ressel and Landenouse. The dry part Ressel was nice also, does the rope start from the surface of the air chamber in Ressel?

Cant wait to get back to Lot, but here few technical questions

What light´s you had for video?
And which software you used for editing the clip?

ps. I got TRV900 and getting some lights in few weeks, hope tp shoot some video of Ojamo and in France

Regards

Teppo

Harald Franzen · January 3rd, 2006, 10:39 PM

Thanks Danny !

Teppo: that's the thing ! I don't have any additional lighting apart from my 10W HID

. The trick is to use as much light from the team as possible, so shots were everybody is lighting the same area come out lots better than shots only lighted with your own light.

I want to get started on building 2x50W HID which is absolutely necessary to get excellent video.

The standard light heads we use really are not very suitable for lighting; especially the 18W HID's are so well focussed, that you get too much lighting on the spot where they're aimed, and too little around it. Video lighting should be parabolic, I guess.

For editing I use Sony Vegas, which is easy enough to handle without a college degree and Sony DVD architect for DVD authoring (the subtitling, DVD menus and various audio channels come in during the authoring, not -so much- during the editing).

I myself am looking to go back in March (I'll become a father for the second time in May, so the last few months of my wife's pregnancy and anything after our baby is born will be out :D or I'll be receiving divorce papers

).

Harald Franzen · January 3rd, 2006, 10:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Teppo)

Hi Harald
The dry part Ressel was nice also, does the rope start from the surface of the air chamber in Ressel?

Sorry, forgot to answer this part...

The line -I think- used to be connected to the main line (but I'm not sure).

What I left out in this short clip is where Davy, my buddy, takes out his line arrows and reel and we start moving up.

Not too far up, we found this line. As you will notice, it speleology line, which effectively means somebody dived the Ressel, surfaced in the chamber (which is huge), climbed al the way up -probably surveying it- and fixed a line somewhere up high where we couldn't even see it !

This effectively means you'll have to "jump", but only a little bit. Maybe David can chip in and give you more details.

Best,

Harald

A-M · January 3rd, 2006, 10:53 PM

Hi Harald,

I was there the week before and at that time the dry section was not connected to the main line. The line started about 2m's higher inside the tunnel to the dry section.

Harald Franzen · January 3rd, 2006, 11:02 PM

We're saying the same thing A-M

, although admittedly my part may have been less than perfectly clear

.

When I said

Quote:

The line -I think- used to be connected to the main line (but I'm not sure).

I was referring to a more or less distant past, somewhere "before my time".

I knew we tied in to the speleologists' line not far above the main line, but in fact here you have one of the main drawbacks of under water video-filming: you do miss things (it's terribly difficult to stay totally focussed and film at the same time, one of the reasons we didn't take the camera on the more demanding dives we did this trip).

Harald

A-M · January 3rd, 2006, 11:10 PM

Sorry

Teppo · January 4th, 2006, 08:52 AM

Wow only 10w HID?? Then the video came out very nice compared to little you had light there for filming

Need to check that software you mentioned, but still looking for MAC for editing :D

I think the line to dry chamber was in 2003 there? But at that time the where a load of lines starting in "deep" section before junction (shallow and "deep" connecting) going up.

Teppo

January 3rd, 2006, 05:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Harald Franzen(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 83	Lot, France, October/November 2005 Not sure where to post this, but it is a trip report, although in video format. As I introduced myself here on DIR-X Teppo from Finland "overheard" me say something about a DVD... Well, I could hardly post that up on the internet, so I've made a 5 minutes 43 seconds "short version" of it and thanks to Al from the UK, who's got some HD space and bandwith left, so I can share it with you. We've tried it in IE 6.x and it works well; with Firefox, it didn't, so you might start IE or try "right click and save" for this 10,7 MB (!) wmv-file. This short excerpt features some shots from the Ressel and Landenouse; the 1+ hour DVD also hosts St. Georges, Trou Madame and Cabouy. Incidentally, I did a Dutch as well as an English voice over and subtitles in both languages on the DVD and audio comes in stereo and Dolby 5.1, so if you're interested in getting the entire DVD; write me a PM. Enjoy and let me know what you think ! Here it is: http://odie.al.star.co.uk/cavelot2005.wmv Best, Harald p.s.: thanks again to Teppo for the idea and to Al for the hosting !!!

January 3rd, 2006, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
godivingbelgium(Offline) Supporting Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Erpe, Belgium Posts: 25	Damn, this is the trip I missed! Next time I'm coming along! See you soon to watch the full video. Winnie __________________ Winnie DIR-equipment in Belgium: Halcyon, Salvo Diving, Dir-Zone Info & webshop: www.godivingbelgium.be

January 3rd, 2006, 07:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Danny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 77	Nice filming,gives a nice impression of the caves!! __________________ There's more to life than scuba diving ,let me know when you find it !!!

January 3rd, 2006, 08:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Teppo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 116	Hi Harald Cool Video, i liked the wire model of Ressel and Landenouse. The dry part Ressel was nice also, does the rope start from the surface of the air chamber in Ressel? Cant wait to get back to Lot, but here few technical questions What light´s you had for video? And which software you used for editing the clip? ps. I got TRV900 and getting some lights in few weeks, hope tp shoot some video of Ojamo and in France Regards Teppo __________________ Teppo http://koti.welho.com/tlallukk/

January 3rd, 2006, 10:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
Harald Franzen(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 83	Lot video Thanks Danny ! Teppo: that's the thing ! I don't have any additional lighting apart from my 10W HID . The trick is to use as much light from the team as possible, so shots were everybody is lighting the same area come out lots better than shots only lighted with your own light. I want to get started on building 2x50W HID which is absolutely necessary to get excellent video. The standard light heads we use really are not very suitable for lighting; especially the 18W HID's are so well focussed, that you get too much lighting on the spot where they're aimed, and too little around it. Video lighting should be parabolic, I guess. For editing I use Sony Vegas, which is easy enough to handle without a college degree and Sony DVD architect for DVD authoring (the subtitling, DVD menus and various audio channels come in during the authoring, not -so much- during the editing). I myself am looking to go back in March (I'll become a father for the second time in May, so the last few months of my wife's pregnancy and anything after our baby is born will be out :D or I'll be receiving divorce papers ).

January 3rd, 2006, 10:46 PM	#6 (permalink)
Harald Franzen(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 83	Quote: (Originally Posted by Teppo) Hi Harald The dry part Ressel was nice also, does the rope start from the surface of the air chamber in Ressel? Sorry, forgot to answer this part... The line -I think- used to be connected to the main line (but I'm not sure). What I left out in this short clip is where Davy, my buddy, takes out his line arrows and reel and we start moving up. Not too far up, we found this line. As you will notice, it speleology line, which effectively means somebody dived the Ressel, surfaced in the chamber (which is huge), climbed al the way up -probably surveying it- and fixed a line somewhere up high where we couldn't even see it ! This effectively means you'll have to "jump", but only a little bit. Maybe David can chip in and give you more details. Best, Harald

January 3rd, 2006, 10:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
A-M(Offline) Cave addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 370	Hi Harald, I was there the week before and at that time the dry section was not connected to the main line. The line started about 2m's higher inside the tunnel to the dry section.

January 3rd, 2006, 11:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Harald Franzen(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 83	Ressel main line to chamber We're saying the same thing A-M , although admittedly my part may have been less than perfectly clear . When I said Quote: The line -I think- used to be connected to the main line (but I'm not sure). I was referring to a more or less distant past, somewhere "before my time". I knew we tied in to the speleologists' line not far above the main line, but in fact here you have one of the main drawbacks of under water video-filming: you do miss things (it's terribly difficult to stay totally focussed and film at the same time, one of the reasons we didn't take the camera on the more demanding dives we did this trip). Harald

January 3rd, 2006, 11:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
A-M(Offline) Cave addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 370	Sorry

January 4th, 2006, 08:52 AM	#10 (permalink)
Teppo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 116	Wow only 10w HID?? Then the video came out very nice compared to little you had light there for filming Need to check that software you mentioned, but still looking for MAC for editing :D I think the line to dry chamber was in 2003 there? But at that time the where a load of lines starting in "deep" section before junction (shallow and "deep" connecting) going up. Teppo __________________ Teppo http://koti.welho.com/tlallukk/