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Old January 17th, 2006, 06:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Non-GUE qualifications required for tech1?

I notice that the tech1 requirements mention training in the use of nitrox for deco as well as saying you need "access" to a tank of 50% - but I can't spot any mention of any qualifications such as TDI adv. nitrox or deco procedures...

So apart from DIR-F, what qualifications (if any) do you need to do tech1?
 
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Old January 17th, 2006, 06:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I notice that the tech1 requirements mention training in the use of nitrox for deco as well as saying you need "access" to a tank of 50% - but I can't spot any mention of any qualifications such as TDI adv. nitrox or deco procedures...

So apart from DIR-F, what qualifications (if any) do you need to do tech1?
None, bar the OW cert. as far as I know. If you have trouble getting hold of the 50%, a letter from the instructor to the dive shop would usually suffice. It's not really a problem, as you won't be using 50% for the first couple of days of a Tech1 anyway.

Looking at th standards, this is an equipment requirement, rather than a qualification requirement, so you can just buy or borrow a stage and you're away.

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Old January 17th, 2006, 06:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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AFAIK They used to accept experienced divers onto tech 1 and cave 1 directly. They kept finding that the skill levels coming through varied too much.

The Fundamentals course was created as the bench mark with which to enter Tech or Cave 1.

Fundamentals does not give a depth qualification, it does not give access to gas or rescue skills. It is all about buoyancy, trim, team, equipment and gas planning. Even a seasoned instructor like myself took alot away from the course and learnt a fair bit. In my experience there isn't a course out there that could claim to have equivalency.

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Old January 17th, 2006, 07:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Presumably you can go along with Kerslake for example and get the gas with him there. Same as you can get Nitrox fills on a nitrox course when with the instructor.
 
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Old January 17th, 2006, 10:28 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I notice that the tech1 requirements mention training in the use of nitrox for deco as well as saying you need "access" to a tank of 50% - but I can't spot any mention of any qualifications such as TDI adv. nitrox or deco procedures...

So apart from DIR-F, what qualifications (if any) do you need to do tech1?
You do however require:- http://www.gue.com/Training/Technical/index.html

Highlights

1.6 General Prerequisites for All GUE Courses

4. Must be a nonsmoker.

6. "Must be CPR/First Aid trained (except for DIR Fundamentals)."


 
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You do however require:- http://www.gue.com/Training/Technical/index.html

Highlights

1.6 General Prerequisites for All GUE Courses

4. Must be a nonsmoker.

6. "Must be CPR/First Aid trained (except for DIR Fundamentals)."

I thought rescue training was also a requirement?
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None, bar the OW cert. as far as I know. If you have trouble getting hold of the 50%, a letter from the instructor to the dive shop would usually suffice.
I just wasn't sure what stance shops would take on this. Shouldn't they insist on seeing qualifications before filling a cylinder with something other than 21%? Just struck me as odd that you were expected to have a stage of 50%, but not necessarily qualifications to obtain it

I guess the letter route could be the answer!

Taking it one stage further, is the tech1 cert generally accepted to allow you to use 50%, 100%, trimix, etc afterwards?
 
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Thanks everyone, interesting stuff



I just wasn't sure what stance shops would take on this. Shouldn't they insist on seeing qualifications before filling a cylinder with something other than 21%? Just struck me as odd that you were expected to have a stage of 50%, but not necessarily qualifications to obtain it

I guess the letter route could be the answer!

Taking it one stage further, is the tech1 cert generally accepted to allow you to use 50%, 100%, trimix, etc afterwards?
Never heard of it being refused. If you have any problems with it, point the dive shop to this site:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/diving/qualifications/rec.htm

which lists GUE as recognised by the HSE.

And it should qualify you for 32%, 30/30, 21/35, 50% and 100%.

Cheers,

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Never heard of it being refused. If you have any problems with it, point the dive shop to this site:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/diving/qualifications/rec.htm

which lists GUE as recognised by the HSE.

And it should qualify you for 32%, 30/30, 21/35, 50% and 100%.

Cheers,

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The approved qualifications issued by the listed Recreational Agencies/Organisations are limited to those, which have been notified to HSE prior to the date of this list.
Do you know which courses that covers? It came up in conversation recently and I didn't know the answer.

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Do you know which courses that covers? It came up in conversation recently and I didn't know the answer.

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Andy got all of this going. As far as I know, all of them are ratified, if thats the word.

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