Goodman Handle Failure & Transporting the battery

Chris Armstrong · January 9th, 2010, 10:51 AM

Hi guys,

Hope you all had a great Christmas and New Year! I asked Santa Claus for my TLS, but it never came! *cry* oh well I start my job again in june so lets see ...

Anyways, during my re-eval at the DIRx gig, I had a catastrophic failure of fabulousness when my Goodman's Handle disintigrated!

I managed to lose the screws as well, so I was hoping, does anyone know what size screw is required for the (Salvo) Goodman Handle!

On another note I managed to get the foam cut out in my peli-case for the 21W HID light and it looks pretty damn fabulous! The battery is stored in the cannister and that has its own slot. The slot for the head was the worst to cut out, ut gt that sorted. Took out a large square chunk to accomodate the light cord to spiral. Finally, slots were cut for the charger and the charger PSU. Overall looks good.

On another note, how have people got their battery packs to america? I'm going to Florida and I'm going to be doing some cave diving while I'm out there, however, I'm a bit cautious about the battery, because with its opaque black shrink wrap coating - it does look quite bomb-like. Although I lack many of the traditional terrorist features, I would rather avoid the back-cavity search that the americans would be itching to give me if they see me with that pack but no clue how to explain it!

Any advise?

Regards,

Chris

**GLOC** · January 9th, 2010, 12:03 PM

HNY Chris.

Screws; speak to Dave at Silent Planet and he should be able to help

Packing; most people I know throw the light in with the rest of the kit!! Haven't heard of any issues.

Batteries; have a search on here, there is loads advice including links to AirSpeed battery stickers.

Regards

**Ben Curtis** · January 9th, 2010, 12:53 PM

Going out to Florida to see Jim Wyatt for a cave course by any chance?

As Gloc said there are loads of links on here for printing stickers off to put on the battery pack explaining that they are non hazardous, although I would still leave it out of your hand luggage even so. Antti had some stickers before for his battery when we did tech1 but I think you flamed him down so he maybe a little hesitant to send them to you. I'll send him a message as I need them as well, I'm sure he'll know where if he hasn't still got the template.

njue · January 9th, 2010, 03:28 PM

Last time I traveled my wife and I carried on our batteries and canisters. They seemed very interested, but there were no problems. However I did get searched for my wife making me put over 2 lbs of M&Ms in my other carry on for her wedding favors!!!!!

Jason

Steve Clark · January 9th, 2010, 04:35 PM

Things may have changed in light of the recent attempted attack, but I've never had any problems getting in and out of FL with a light. (Salvo 21w 9AhNiMH)

I've always checked all my dive kit into the hold (suitably protected with towels etc). That way you avoid the 'potential weapon' issues.

Steve

Chris Armstrong · January 9th, 2010, 05:08 PM

Cheers for all the advice peeps!! I'll have a nosey!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Curtis)

Going out to Florida to see Jim Wyatt for a cave course by any chance?

Abso-freaking-lutely!!!! my parents are paying for it, as my 21st present, so I might as well do something I really wanna do. I'd prefer to be in a cave than on a wreck. Wrecks don't have the appeal to me.

I'm going to Florida on holiday to stay at the family villa, I've worked my arse off at uni for the last 4 years so its a nice present to me and the wife.

Where you off to to need stickers for your battery?

Chris

Aapeli · January 9th, 2010, 05:48 PM

Stickers will be on their way Ben on monday, i still had few left. Give one to chris as a b-day present, lol. Chris why ya not going for c1?????

**Ben Curtis** · January 9th, 2010, 10:01 PM

I'm saying nuffin.

Watch this space though.

I get that wreck diving might not appeal. Have you thought about giving it more than one sea dive to test the waters as it were. I bet with a good group of guys around you'd feel a lot more relaxed than before and have a hell of a lot more fun. If you want to come out and do some sea diving we won't take the piss if you still don't like it. And well if you do then great.

Now about this family villa in florida.

Ali Fikree · January 10th, 2010, 07:36 AM

A few friends have told me that it should not be an issue. I would carry it as hand luggage in the event some "noob" TSA employee opens up my bag and forgets to put it all back in.

Either way, carry your manufacturers catalog, user manual and show the m a copy of your C-card to prove that you are actually a diver.

here is your sticker link as well http://www.airspeedpress.com/BatteryLabelDrycell.jpg

I am actually going take a picture of my battery and send it to TSA to see what they have to say.

Have a great holiday.

Ali

Chris Armstrong · January 10th, 2010, 11:40 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ali Fikree)

A few friends have told me that it should not be an issue. I would carry it as hand luggage in the event some "noob" TSA employee opens up my bag and forgets to put it all back in.

Either way, carry your manufacturers catalog, user manual and show the m a copy of your C-card to prove that you are actually a diver.

here is your sticker link as well http://www.airspeedpress.com/BatteryLabelDrycell.jpg

I am actually going take a picture of my battery and send it to TSA to see what they have to say.

Have a great holiday.

Ali

Now I've got conflicting advice.... about where to put it ... I'm leaning towards taking it in carry on because as you said I can make sure it gets there!!

The only catch is I got my salvo (first problem) second hand so no manuals etc (second problem.)

Cheers for the link - surely that should mean they will go OK - i suppose the worst case is I turn it on and that will prove its a battery pack!

Cheers

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Curtis)

Now about this family villa in florida.

Oh did I mention its local (within an hour) to some of the major systems like peacock,ginnie etc ...After you're comments you can keep dreaming!

January 9th, 2010, 10:51 AM	#1 (permalink)
Chris Armstrong(Offline) Eager beaver! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eltham(London)/ Loughborough(Leciestershire) Posts: 570	Hi guys, Hope you all had a great Christmas and New Year! I asked Santa Claus for my TLS, but it never came! cry oh well I start my job again in june so lets see ... Anyways, during my re-eval at the DIRx gig, I had a catastrophic failure of fabulousness when my Goodman's Handle disintigrated! I managed to lose the screws as well, so I was hoping, does anyone know what size screw is required for the (Salvo) Goodman Handle! On another note I managed to get the foam cut out in my peli-case for the 21W HID light and it looks pretty damn fabulous! The battery is stored in the cannister and that has its own slot. The slot for the head was the worst to cut out, ut gt that sorted. Took out a large square chunk to accomodate the light cord to spiral. Finally, slots were cut for the charger and the charger PSU. Overall looks good. On another note, how have people got their battery packs to america? I'm going to Florida and I'm going to be doing some cave diving while I'm out there, however, I'm a bit cautious about the battery, because with its opaque black shrink wrap coating - it does look quite bomb-like. Although I lack many of the traditional terrorist features, I would rather avoid the back-cavity search that the americans would be itching to give me if they see me with that pack but no clue how to explain it! Any advise? Regards, Chris __________________ "If Murphy's Law Doesn't Get You ... Then Darwin's Law Will" - Chris Armstrong - July 16 2008 - Cave Diving "Invictus Maneo" - "I Remain Unvanquished" North-West Premier Dive Center - Dive Life - www.divelife.co.uk

January 9th, 2010, 12:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOC(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 2,692	HNY Chris. Screws; speak to Dave at Silent Planet and he should be able to help Packing; most people I know throw the light in with the rest of the kit!! Haven't heard of any issues. Batteries; have a search on here, there is loads advice including links to AirSpeed battery stickers. Regards __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar “Set your expectations high; find men and women whose integrity and values you respect; get their agreement on a course of action; and give them your ultimate trust.” “It is far better to be trusted and respected that it is to be liked.”

January 9th, 2010, 12:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ben Curtis(Offline) Firmly back in the saddle Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bucks - Near Aylesbury (shudder) Posts: 764	Going out to Florida to see Jim Wyatt for a cave course by any chance? As Gloc said there are loads of links on here for printing stickers off to put on the battery pack explaining that they are non hazardous, although I would still leave it out of your hand luggage even so. Antti had some stickers before for his battery when we did tech1 but I think you flamed him down so he maybe a little hesitant to send them to you. I'll send him a message as I need them as well, I'm sure he'll know where if he hasn't still got the template. __________________ www.millenniumdivers.org ...."settle for nothing less than perfection. Those who do will discover on their own the value of such effort. Those who do not will never understand what the others are talking about." Bill Gavin

January 9th, 2010, 05:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chris Armstrong(Offline) Eager beaver! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eltham(London)/ Loughborough(Leciestershire) Posts: 570	Cheers for all the advice peeps!! I'll have a nosey! Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Curtis) Going out to Florida to see Jim Wyatt for a cave course by any chance? Abso-freaking-lutely!!!! my parents are paying for it, as my 21st present, so I might as well do something I really wanna do. I'd prefer to be in a cave than on a wreck. Wrecks don't have the appeal to me. I'm going to Florida on holiday to stay at the family villa, I've worked my arse off at uni for the last 4 years so its a nice present to me and the wife. Where you off to to need stickers for your battery? Chris __________________ "If Murphy's Law Doesn't Get You ... Then Darwin's Law Will" - Chris Armstrong - July 16 2008 - Cave Diving "Invictus Maneo" - "I Remain Unvanquished" North-West Premier Dive Center - Dive Life - www.divelife.co.uk

January 9th, 2010, 10:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ben Curtis(Offline) Firmly back in the saddle Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Bucks - Near Aylesbury (shudder) Posts: 764	I'm saying nuffin. Watch this space though. I get that wreck diving might not appeal. Have you thought about giving it more than one sea dive to test the waters as it were. I bet with a good group of guys around you'd feel a lot more relaxed than before and have a hell of a lot more fun. If you want to come out and do some sea diving we won't take the piss if you still don't like it. And well if you do then great. Now about this family villa in florida. __________________ www.millenniumdivers.org ...."settle for nothing less than perfection. Those who do will discover on their own the value of such effort. Those who do not will never understand what the others are talking about." Bill Gavin Last edited by Ben Curtis; January 9th, 2010 at 10:07 PM.. Reason: I clicked send and I hadn't really written anything controversial. :D

January 9th, 2010, 03:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
njue(Offline) New Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: new jersey Posts: 12	Last time I traveled my wife and I carried on our batteries and canisters. They seemed very interested, but there were no problems. However I did get searched for my wife making me put over 2 lbs of M&Ms in my other carry on for her wedding favors!!!!! Jason

January 9th, 2010, 04:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Steve Clark(Offline) New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Preston, UK Posts: 58	Things may have changed in light of the recent attempted attack, but I've never had any problems getting in and out of FL with a light. (Salvo 21w 9AhNiMH) I've always checked all my dive kit into the hold (suitably protected with towels etc). That way you avoid the 'potential weapon' issues. Steve

January 9th, 2010, 05:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Aapeli (Online) New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: belgium, brussels Posts: 243	Stickers will be on their way Ben on monday, i still had few left. Give one to chris as a b-day present, lol. Chris why ya not going for c1?????

January 10th, 2010, 07:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Ali Fikree(Offline) Have gear will travel. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 898	A few friends have told me that it should not be an issue. I would carry it as hand luggage in the event some "noob" TSA employee opens up my bag and forgets to put it all back in. Either way, carry your manufacturers catalog, user manual and show the m a copy of your C-card to prove that you are actually a diver. here is your sticker link as well http://www.airspeedpress.com/BatteryLabelDrycell.jpg I am actually going take a picture of my battery and send it to TSA to see what they have to say. Have a great holiday. Ali __________________ The important thing is not to stop questioning.—Albert Einstein Last edited by Ali Fikree; January 10th, 2010 at 08:22 AM..

January 10th, 2010, 11:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Chris Armstrong(Offline) Eager beaver! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Eltham(London)/ Loughborough(Leciestershire) Posts: 570	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ali Fikree) A few friends have told me that it should not be an issue. I would carry it as hand luggage in the event some "noob" TSA employee opens up my bag and forgets to put it all back in. Either way, carry your manufacturers catalog, user manual and show the m a copy of your C-card to prove that you are actually a diver. here is your sticker link as well http://www.airspeedpress.com/BatteryLabelDrycell.jpg I am actually going take a picture of my battery and send it to TSA to see what they have to say. Have a great holiday. Ali Now I've got conflicting advice.... about where to put it ... I'm leaning towards taking it in carry on because as you said I can make sure it gets there!! The only catch is I got my salvo (first problem) second hand so no manuals etc (second problem.) Cheers for the link - surely that should mean they will go OK - i suppose the worst case is I turn it on and that will prove its a battery pack! Cheers Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Curtis) Now about this family villa in florida. Oh did I mention its local (within an hour) to some of the major systems like peacock,ginnie etc ...After you're comments you can keep dreaming! __________________ "If Murphy's Law Doesn't Get You ... Then Darwin's Law Will" - Chris Armstrong - July 16 2008 - Cave Diving "Invictus Maneo" - "I Remain Unvanquished" North-West Premier Dive Center - Dive Life - www.divelife.co.uk