BZ400 SANTI – an almost perfect undergarment? - Page 2

Keiron · February 22nd, 2007, 07:38 PM

Oh well, I'll find out soon enough

I can see the reason behind missing off the hip pockets, I can't imagine they would get used all that much and just add material to the wasteline. Are the missing pockets and the mandarine neck options you need to ask for? Or will Tomasz verify what you need before it's made?

*Dorota & Wojtek* · February 24th, 2007, 01:58 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Keiron)

Are the missing pockets and the mandarine neck options you need to ask for?

The standard version includes pockets and mandarine collar.
It exculdes the suspenders

- but they realy help in our opinion...

So whatever you decide it is better to write it with your order.

Andy C · February 25th, 2007, 10:38 AM

If you want suspenders (or braces in UK speak

) you need to be very firm with your request as I had asked for them but got my under-suit back without them being fitted.

I'm seriously thinking about adding some myself, would it be possible to post a couple of pictures of where & how they're attached to the suit so I can attempt to fit some.

Thanks

Andy

*Richard Lundgren* · February 26th, 2007, 03:24 PM

Hi D&W

Excellent report! I really like the improvements of this undergarment. Have used the old one and have been happy with it but this new one seams to incorporate most of the areas that I thought needed to be improved.

Take care
Richard Lundgren

*Dorota & Wojtek* · February 26th, 2007, 04:11 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy C)

would it be possible to post a couple of pictures of where & how they're attached to the suit so I can attempt to fit some.

We have the undergourment back in Poland, but we will try to organize some pictures and post them as soon as posible.

***ericfine50*** · February 27th, 2007, 12:05 AM

I really like the vest design - overall, it seems they have put a lot of time and effort and diver input into the UG.

*Clare* · March 12th, 2007, 07:50 PM

Well I ordered mine at the weekend at the dive show - Tomek was there and was very helpful indeed. Can't wait - although I can't believe that I've left it until March to order my new undersuit when I intended to do it in October.

Ordered without pockets and despite my reluctance a name badge as Mr Cooper was also persuaded to get one and I don't want to end up wearing his

Soggy · March 13th, 2007, 03:51 PM

I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable.

DRE · March 13th, 2007, 05:33 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Soggy)

I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable.

Did you buy it in the US or did you order it from overseas?

Roel · March 13th, 2007, 07:08 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Soggy)

I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable.

A common mistake people make is that cold fingers have nothing to do with their 'body clothing' since that is nice and warm.

After I started using a new D400, better undergarment and 2 hoods my fingers are warmer!

New forget warm fingers are an effect of good isolation of the TOTAL body!

February 25th, 2007, 10:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
Andy C(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Harby, Leicestershire Posts: 167	If you want suspenders (or braces in UK speak ) you need to be very firm with your request as I had asked for them but got my under-suit back without them being fitted. I'm seriously thinking about adding some myself, would it be possible to post a couple of pictures of where & how they're attached to the suit so I can attempt to fit some. Thanks Andy __________________ "When the Government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the Government, there is tyranny" - Thomas Jefferson

March 12th, 2007, 07:50 PM	#17 (permalink)
Clare(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,930	Well I ordered mine at the weekend at the dive show - Tomek was there and was very helpful indeed. Can't wait - although I can't believe that I've left it until March to order my new undersuit when I intended to do it in October. Ordered without pockets and despite my reluctance a name badge as Mr Cooper was also persuaded to get one and I don't want to end up wearing his __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

March 13th, 2007, 05:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
DRE(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Freeport, NY and Key Largo, FL Posts: 191	Quote: (Originally Posted by Soggy) I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable. Did you buy it in the US or did you order it from overseas? __________________ www.dirtydiving.com - DIR is not a 4-letter word!

February 22nd, 2007, 07:38 PM	#11 (permalink)
Keiron(Offline) New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Chester, UK Posts: 133	Oh well, I'll find out soon enough I can see the reason behind missing off the hip pockets, I can't imagine they would get used all that much and just add material to the wasteline. Are the missing pockets and the mandarine neck options you need to ask for? Or will Tomasz verify what you need before it's made?

February 24th, 2007, 01:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
Dorota & Wojtek(Offline) GUE Instructors Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hurghada, Red Sea, Egypt Posts: 30	Quote: (Originally Posted by Keiron) Are the missing pockets and the mandarine neck options you need to ask for? The standard version includes pockets and mandarine collar. It exculdes the suspenders - but they realy help in our opinion... So whatever you decide it is better to write it with your order.

February 26th, 2007, 03:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Richard Lundgren(Offline) GUE Instructor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 113	Hi D&W Excellent report! I really like the improvements of this undergarment. Have used the old one and have been happy with it but this new one seams to incorporate most of the areas that I thought needed to be improved. Take care Richard Lundgren

February 26th, 2007, 04:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dorota & Wojtek(Offline) GUE Instructors Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hurghada, Red Sea, Egypt Posts: 30	Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy C) would it be possible to post a couple of pictures of where & how they're attached to the suit so I can attempt to fit some. We have the undergourment back in Poland, but we will try to organize some pictures and post them as soon as posible.

February 27th, 2007, 12:05 AM	#16 (permalink)
*ericfine50*(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 622	I really like the vest design - overall, it seems they have put a lot of time and effort and diver input into the UG.

March 13th, 2007, 03:51 PM	#18 (permalink)
Soggy(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Waltham, MA Posts: 2	I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable.

March 13th, 2007, 07:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
Roel(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 413	Quote: (Originally Posted by Soggy) I've been very very happy with the BZ400 that I have. I received it back in August, 2006 in preparation for an expedition to the Empress of Ireland. I was able to stay warm in 35-37 F degree water for a change. 6 months later, I'm still happy with it diving in Massachusetts during the winter scootering in 36 degree water. My fingers were frozen, but my body was reasonably warm. I might consider getting the vest at some point. It might make things even more comfortable. A common mistake people make is that cold fingers have nothing to do with their 'body clothing' since that is nice and warm. After I started using a new D400, better undergarment and 2 hoods my fingers are warmer! New forget warm fingers are an effect of good isolation of the TOTAL body!