What goes where - Pockets

Gareth Burrows · November 25th, 2005, 02:59 PM

Is there a standard for what goes in which pocket. I am specifically interested to hear what people actually carry in their left and right pockets. And is everything connected by dogclip and bungie to the pocket.

Cheers

*JohnKendall* · November 25th, 2005, 03:05 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf)

Is there a standard for what goes in which pocket. I am specifically interested to hear what people actually carry in their left and right pockets. And is everything connected by dogclip and bungie to the pocket.

Cheers

Uh-Oh. That's a right pocket of worms you're opening up.

There is no defined standard for Pocekt contents, as it depends a lot on what situation you're diving, what you're actually trying to carry, and what pockets you've got.

What I do:

Left Pocket:
Spare Mask
Safety Spool
Ocean - 3ft DSMB
Cave - Line Arrows + Cookies

Right Pocket:
Wetnotes

If I ever want to carry anything else then it goes in my right pocket.

Everything is attached. Normally with either a boltsnap tied on, or a double ender. These are then clipped to a bungy loop in each pocket

J

Gary Moffat · November 25th, 2005, 03:36 PM

Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive. Sea dive - SMB, Spool and wet notes.

Reason: If carrying stages its easier to get to the right pocket.

LEFT Pocket put in emergency\spare kit. mask, knife, whistle, spool. ect

That how I have mine.

Gary.

**neilh** · November 25th, 2005, 03:39 PM

There was quite a discussion on this at the DIR gig - like the clips on lights I don't remember there being much consensus

One school of thought was for "standard" items to be on the left and backup items on the right... or was it the other way around

EDIT:

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry)

Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive.

Told you

Divingniknaks · November 25th, 2005, 03:40 PM

Garf as John said , you will 97 different views on this.

At the Stoney Gig this came up and the logic presented by AK and RW was the config as John has stated suits scootering, eg "Life support" stuff in the Left pocket. Other items in right.

A few people commented that they had previously been taught the other way round.

Concensus was that the discussion was possibly "Anal" (Rich's words) as, as long as you know where the item you need is, then it's a finer point of gear config and as such not a huge deal.

It did make sense to always maintain the "persoanl rule" though, so that when it hits the fan you know which pocket you're going for.

I think I've remembered the discussion correctly, if I'm wrong then I'm sure Bob, Rick or Willo will corect me.

.

Gareth Burrows · November 25th, 2005, 03:59 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry)

Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive. Sea dive - SMB, Spool and wet notes.

Reason: If carrying stages its easier to get to the right pocket.

LEFT Pocket put in emergency\spare kit. mask, knife, whistle, spool. ect

That how I have mine.

Gary.

blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to.

Which I'm not sure makes sense to me.

ReikiMaster · November 25th, 2005, 04:05 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf)

blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to.

Which I'm not sure makes sense to me.

you beat me to it grrr,

Gary Moffat · November 25th, 2005, 04:26 PM

Remember you have two other team members who can assist in accessing your spares\emergency kit.

Equipment you will need on the dive is a readably assessable in right pocket and required for the dive.

Equipment in LEFT pocket spare\emergency:

Your example. Lost mask

-Signal team make them aware of problem.
Resolve the problem - yourself or team member retrives your spare mask.
Emergency over.

There are two other spare masks still available so dive and continue.

Team diving concept with shared resources.

Hope this helps.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf)

blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to.

Which I'm not sure makes sense to me.

fraser · November 25th, 2005, 04:27 PM

Ok, bottles in the way of the left pocket adds a slight inconvenience factor but is certainly not a problem. There is nothing in my backup gear that I'm going to be in a rush to get, eg in an emergency as mentioned. Often, I don't bother with a backup mask as long as another team mate has one. Equipment is a team resource.

As for pocket contents, as has already been mentioned I think what goes where is probably a bit anal. I was taught all "primary" equipment goes right, and all "backup" goes left, this follows for regs on posts, timers, and pocket contents.

I can see the sense in keeping stuff left for scootering, but does anyone really deploy a blob without coming off the trigger?

Cheers,

Fraser.

Gareth Burrows · November 25th, 2005, 04:38 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry)

Remember you have two other team members who can assist in accessing your spares\emergency kit.

Equipment you will need on the dive is a readably assessable in right pocket and required for the dive.

Equipment in LEFT pocket spare\emergency:

Your example. Lost mask

-Signal team make them aware of problem.
Resolve the problem - yourself or team member retrives your spare mask.
Emergency over.

There are two other spare masks still available so dive and continue.

Team diving concept with shared resources.

Hope this helps.

OK, this is an excellent point. I am still approaching this with the TDI self sufficiency thing, probably as a result of solo diving (whoops, sorry

)

November 25th, 2005, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gareth Burrows(Offline) Chimp 2 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Horsham, West Sussex Posts: 365	What goes where - Pockets Is there a standard for what goes in which pocket. I am specifically interested to hear what people actually carry in their left and right pockets. And is everything connected by dogclip and bungie to the pocket. Cheers __________________ Garf Amusing and Clever Signature under construction.

November 25th, 2005, 03:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Garf as John said , you will 97 different views on this. At the Stoney Gig this came up and the logic presented by AK and RW was the config as John has stated suits scootering, eg "Life support" stuff in the Left pocket. Other items in right. A few people commented that they had previously been taught the other way round. Concensus was that the discussion was possibly "Anal" (Rich's words) as, as long as you know where the item you need is, then it's a finer point of gear config and as such not a huge deal. It did make sense to always maintain the "persoanl rule" though, so that when it hits the fan you know which pocket you're going for. I think I've remembered the discussion correctly, if I'm wrong then I'm sure Bob, Rick or Willo will corect me. . __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

November 25th, 2005, 03:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Gareth Burrows(Offline) Chimp 2 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Horsham, West Sussex Posts: 365	Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry) Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive. Sea dive - SMB, Spool and wet notes. Reason: If carrying stages its easier to get to the right pocket. LEFT Pocket put in emergency\spare kit. mask, knife, whistle, spool. ect That how I have mine. Gary. blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to. Which I'm not sure makes sense to me. __________________ Garf Amusing and Clever Signature under construction.

November 25th, 2005, 04:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
ReikiMaster(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK Posts: 123	Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf) blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to. Which I'm not sure makes sense to me. you beat me to it grrr, __________________ Steve

November 25th, 2005, 04:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Ok, bottles in the way of the left pocket adds a slight inconvenience factor but is certainly not a problem. There is nothing in my backup gear that I'm going to be in a rush to get, eg in an emergency as mentioned. Often, I don't bother with a backup mask as long as another team mate has one. Equipment is a team resource. As for pocket contents, as has already been mentioned I think what goes where is probably a bit anal. I was taught all "primary" equipment goes right, and all "backup" goes left, this follows for regs on posts, timers, and pocket contents. I can see the sense in keeping stuff left for scootering, but does anyone really deploy a blob without coming off the trigger? Cheers, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

November 25th, 2005, 03:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
JohnKendall(Offline) GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,098	Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf) Is there a standard for what goes in which pocket. I am specifically interested to hear what people actually carry in their left and right pockets. And is everything connected by dogclip and bungie to the pocket. Cheers Uh-Oh. That's a right pocket of worms you're opening up. There is no defined standard for Pocekt contents, as it depends a lot on what situation you're diving, what you're actually trying to carry, and what pockets you've got. What I do: Left Pocket: Spare Mask Safety Spool Ocean - 3ft DSMB Cave - Line Arrows + Cookies Right Pocket: Wetnotes If I ever want to carry anything else then it goes in my right pocket. Everything is attached. Normally with either a boltsnap tied on, or a double ender. These are then clipped to a bungy loop in each pocket J

November 25th, 2005, 03:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gary Moffat(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Lothian Posts: 120	Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive. Sea dive - SMB, Spool and wet notes. Reason: If carrying stages its easier to get to the right pocket. LEFT Pocket put in emergency\spare kit. mask, knife, whistle, spool. ect That how I have mine. Gary.

November 25th, 2005, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
neilh (Online) Haemoglobin on the bus... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 1,900	There was quite a discussion on this at the DIR gig - like the clips on lights I don't remember there being much consensus One school of thought was for "standard" items to be on the left and backup items on the right... or was it the other way around EDIT: Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry) Put stuff in your RIGHT pocket you are going to need on the dive. Told you

November 25th, 2005, 04:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gary Moffat(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Lothian Posts: 120	Remember you have two other team members who can assist in accessing your spares\emergency kit. Equipment you will need on the dive is a readably assessable in right pocket and required for the dive. Equipment in LEFT pocket spare\emergency: Your example. Lost mask -Signal team make them aware of problem. Resolve the problem - yourself or team member retrives your spare mask. Emergency over. There are two other spare masks still available so dive and continue. Team diving concept with shared resources. Hope this helps. Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf) blimey, this is the first thing ive found in DIR that makes no sense me. If it's easier to get to the right hand pocket becuase of the stages on the left, then surely the RIGHT hand pocket is where you want the emergency equipment such as backup mask etc, as you want it to be easy to get to in an emergency. the way you suggest means that the things you need in an emergency are hardest to get to. Which I'm not sure makes sense to me.

November 25th, 2005, 04:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gareth Burrows(Offline) Chimp 2 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Horsham, West Sussex Posts: 365	Quote: (Originally Posted by Gunsentry) Remember you have two other team members who can assist in accessing your spares\emergency kit. Equipment you will need on the dive is a readably assessable in right pocket and required for the dive. Equipment in LEFT pocket spare\emergency: Your example. Lost mask -Signal team make them aware of problem. Resolve the problem - yourself or team member retrives your spare mask. Emergency over. There are two other spare masks still available so dive and continue. Team diving concept with shared resources. Hope this helps. OK, this is an excellent point. I am still approaching this with the TDI self sufficiency thing, probably as a result of solo diving (whoops, sorry ) __________________ Garf Amusing and Clever Signature under construction.