Tail Weight

PS1 · May 9th, 2006, 10:49 AM

Hi guys - I'm perfectly familiar with V-weights, P-weights etc and am aware of the notion of a tail weight & what it's purpose is but, never having seen one, I obviously can't picture what they look like or exactly where they attach etc.

Would anybody care to indulge me with a description or, better still, a photo?

Any guidelines on a ballpark size tail weight to trim out 12L faber doubles - or is that a case of go & buy some Euro cylinders & save yourself the hassle?:-)

TIA

Paul

Rob Andrews · May 9th, 2006, 10:59 AM

Have a look here http://www.apvr14.dsl.pipex.com/weights.htm

Unfortunatelly they went out of business some time ago I believe but the tail weight is the one on the left.

Seydlitz · May 9th, 2006, 11:21 AM

Paul FWIW...I have Fabers and Heisers ....and a Very ball park Figure to trim out Fabers is a 6lb tail Weight for me.. However If I use my PRO 14 its negative 6lb in the water and My trim with it is the same with both different sets of Twins..not sure if this helps you as we are all very different

Andy

Rob Dobson · May 9th, 2006, 11:57 AM

Speak to Tobin about his tail weight pouches. Cheap and effective.

**neilh** · May 9th, 2006, 02:41 PM

Another option I found is a (I think it's a beaver) trim weight. I've got a 2Kg one that is a rectangular bag of shot with a loop of webbing on one side to attach to a cam band, but more usefully it has two eyelets at either end. It's not as nice as a v-shaped weight to hang off the bottom bolt, but it fits, it was in the shop when I was messing about - and hey, it's black

PS1 · May 9th, 2006, 03:18 PM

Thanks for taking the time to reply guys.

So, basically, it's just a bit of a V-weight which attaches to the lower bolt of the doubles bands (& below/above the lower bands ie lower than the lower bands or between the bands) which, obviously, gives a counter weight to the slightly neck heavy Fabers to facilitate good trim. Of course, there are variations on this theme (pouches etc) which have the same effect, however, all in all, the tail-weight is all part of your non-ditchable ballast.

Presumably (thinking out loud as it were), given where the weight ends up positioned with a tail weight, then (moving) some weight on to a belt (within the override of the total weight requirement) would achieve almost the same purpose?

**Howard Payne** · May 9th, 2006, 03:54 PM

3kg tail weight has sorted out my trim with Faber x2 12l / Evolve / Apeks combo. Way to "head heavy" without it - fine with

**neilh** · May 9th, 2006, 05:41 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by PS1)

Presumably (thinking out loud as it were), given where the weight ends up positioned with a tail weight, then (moving) some weight on to a belt (within the override of the total weight requirement) would achieve almost the same purpose?

Pretty close, yup - so just becomes a question of whether you want it on the belt or not.

TobinGeorge · May 9th, 2006, 06:21 PM

Look here
http://www.deepseasupply.com/page24.html

Phil (niknaks) should have some.

Tobin

Divingniknaks · May 10th, 2006, 12:31 AM

Thanks for that Tobin, yes indeed do have them here

http://www.divingniknaks.com/proddet...17&cat=82&nav=

Hope that might help

Cheers

.

May 9th, 2006, 10:49 AM	#1 (permalink)
PS1(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 77	Tail Weight Hi guys - I'm perfectly familiar with V-weights, P-weights etc and am aware of the notion of a tail weight & what it's purpose is but, never having seen one, I obviously can't picture what they look like or exactly where they attach etc. Would anybody care to indulge me with a description or, better still, a photo? Any guidelines on a ballpark size tail weight to trim out 12L faber doubles - or is that a case of go & buy some Euro cylinders & save yourself the hassle?:-) TIA Paul __________________ Paul

May 9th, 2006, 11:21 AM	#3 (permalink)
Seydlitz (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Never Far from a good Belgian Beer and a Crackwh*re Posts: 455	Tail weights Paul FWIW...I have Fabers and Heisers ....and a Very ball park Figure to trim out Fabers is a 6lb tail Weight for me.. However If I use my PRO 14 its negative 6lb in the water and My trim with it is the same with both different sets of Twins..not sure if this helps you as we are all very different Andy

May 9th, 2006, 03:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
PS1(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 77	Thanks Thanks for taking the time to reply guys. So, basically, it's just a bit of a V-weight which attaches to the lower bolt of the doubles bands (& below/above the lower bands ie lower than the lower bands or between the bands) which, obviously, gives a counter weight to the slightly neck heavy Fabers to facilitate good trim. Of course, there are variations on this theme (pouches etc) which have the same effect, however, all in all, the tail-weight is all part of your non-ditchable ballast. Presumably (thinking out loud as it were), given where the weight ends up positioned with a tail weight, then (moving) some weight on to a belt (within the override of the total weight requirement) would achieve almost the same purpose? __________________ Paul

May 9th, 2006, 03:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Howard Payne (Online) Strokey Dokily Doo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,208	3kg tail weight has sorted out my trim with Faber x2 12l / Evolve / Apeks combo. Way to "head heavy" without it - fine with __________________ The Foxturd Chimp

May 10th, 2006, 12:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Thanks for that Tobin, yes indeed do have them here http://www.divingniknaks.com/proddet...17&cat=82&nav= Hope that might help Cheers . __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

May 9th, 2006, 10:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rob Andrews(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Wombourne, West Mids, UK Posts: 133	Have a look here http://www.apvr14.dsl.pipex.com/weights.htm Unfortunatelly they went out of business some time ago I believe but the tail weight is the one on the left.

May 9th, 2006, 11:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rob Dobson(Offline) Chillin' with the ninjas Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 536	Speak to Tobin about his tail weight pouches. Cheap and effective.

May 9th, 2006, 02:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
neilh(Offline) Haemoglobin on the bus... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 1,900	Another option I found is a (I think it's a beaver) trim weight. I've got a 2Kg one that is a rectangular bag of shot with a loop of webbing on one side to attach to a cam band, but more usefully it has two eyelets at either end. It's not as nice as a v-shaped weight to hang off the bottom bolt, but it fits, it was in the shop when I was messing about - and hey, it's black

May 9th, 2006, 05:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
neilh(Offline) Haemoglobin on the bus... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 1,900	Quote: (Originally Posted by PS1) Presumably (thinking out loud as it were), given where the weight ends up positioned with a tail weight, then (moving) some weight on to a belt (within the override of the total weight requirement) would achieve almost the same purpose? Pretty close, yup - so just becomes a question of whether you want it on the belt or not.

May 9th, 2006, 06:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
TobinGeorge (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 569	Look here http://www.deepseasupply.com/page24.html Phil (niknaks) should have some. Tobin