Back Up Reg Hose Routing

TAZA · April 21st, 2006, 10:46 PM

Twin Twelve's
DS4 First Stage's
When fitted to the first stage the hose for the back up reg is bent at 90 deg,
Whats the feeling on fitting a 90 deg elbow into the first stage and then fit the back up hose into the elbow so it runs nice & straight.
Any thoughts

GLOC · April 21st, 2006, 11:00 PM

Failure point.....as everyone else wiil say

You don't need it, the hose routes okay, ask Wilbo as he dives the same rig.

Dani_diving · April 21st, 2006, 11:04 PM

See this link that someone else posted in a similar thread:

http://www.costablancascuba.com/dir/

HTH.

Bart78660 · April 22nd, 2006, 02:19 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC)

Failure point.....as everyone else wiil say

You don't need it, the hose routes okay, ask Wilbo as he dives the same rig.

yep - don't do it. failure point...

diver42 · April 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA)

Twin Twelve's
DS4 First Stage's
When fitted to the first stage the hose for the back up reg is bent at 90 deg,
Whats the feeling on fitting a 90 deg elbow into the first stage and then fit the back up hose into the elbow so it runs nice & straight.
Any thoughts

No need to pull it so tight that it creates a 90 degree angle.

**Howard Payne** · April 24th, 2006, 01:20 AM

Someone buy him an afternoon with Rich Walker pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease. I hear that Zak Sherlock's a really good TDI Instructor you know...

TAZA · April 24th, 2006, 08:21 AM

One Step you are Mr Bean
I thought this site was for asking questions,
If you don't ask you will never know.

GLOC · April 24th, 2006, 10:09 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA)

One Step you are Mr Bean
I thought this site was for asking questions,
If you don't ask you will never know.

I think the point has already been made on other threads where you have asked questions, that most of the information is out there on this site, or YD, the GUE site, the WKPP site...you just need to do some searching or reading of existing threads and after that it isn't clear, feel free to ask away.

There is nothing wrong with asking questions, just as long as it appears that you have done some digging already. What I found from doing Fundies is GUE expects it's divers to have some capability to think - problem solving is a skill that is expected of you. The courses are definitely not 'Monkey See, monkey do...', they are courses where you are given the problem and a possible solution or some pointers but it is you who has to work it out.

HTH

Gareth

TAZA · April 24th, 2006, 11:48 AM

After having being told on several occasions regarding searching for previous threads,I did a search on fitting a 90deg elbow to the first stage but with no results,
So to keep the click happy I will keep my mouth shut until I have completed the fundies course.
So to all who have been helpful a big thanks.

GLOC · April 24th, 2006, 11:58 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA)

After having being told on several occasions regarding searching for previous threads,I did a search on fitting a 90deg elbow to the first stage but with no results,
So to keep the click happy I will keep my mouth shut until I have completed the fundies course.
So to all who have been helpful a big thanks.

No problems TAZA, but you have to think about why the elbow joint would be really needed? There isn't too much stress placed on the hose and the elbow provides another failure point. To reduce the angles on the hoses, the DS4's are placed horizontally, if you tilt them inwards the angle increases, even then it is still useable as that is how I have my DS4's, Explorer and ECS setup.

April 21st, 2006, 10:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Bart78660(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 31	Quote: (Originally Posted by GLOC) Failure point.....as everyone else wiil say You don't need it, the hose routes okay, ask Wilbo as he dives the same rig. yep - don't do it. failure point... __________________ Regards, Bart78660 Be Prepared, Something may go Wrong www.globaldrysuitparts.com

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TAZA(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrington Cheshire Posts: 114	After having being told on several occasions regarding searching for previous threads,I did a search on fitting a 90deg elbow to the first stage but with no results, So to keep the click happy I will keep my mouth shut until I have completed the fundies course. So to all who have been helpful a big thanks. Last edited by TAZA; April 24th, 2006 at 11:50 AM.

April 21st, 2006, 11:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,955	Failure point.....as everyone else wiil say You don't need it, the hose routes okay, ask Wilbo as he dives the same rig.

April 21st, 2006, 11:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dani_diving(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Spain Posts: 8	See this link that someone else posted in a similar thread: http://www.costablancascuba.com/dir/ HTH.

April 24th, 2006, 12:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
diver42(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 107	Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA) Twin Twelve's DS4 First Stage's When fitted to the first stage the hose for the back up reg is bent at 90 deg, Whats the feeling on fitting a 90 deg elbow into the first stage and then fit the back up hose into the elbow so it runs nice & straight. Any thoughts No need to pull it so tight that it creates a 90 degree angle.

April 24th, 2006, 08:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
TAZA(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrington Cheshire Posts: 114	One Step you are Mr Bean I thought this site was for asking questions, If you don't ask you will never know.

April 24th, 2006, 10:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,955	Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA) One Step you are Mr Bean I thought this site was for asking questions, If you don't ask you will never know. I think the point has already been made on other threads where you have asked questions, that most of the information is out there on this site, or YD, the GUE site, the WKPP site...you just need to do some searching or reading of existing threads and after that it isn't clear, feel free to ask away. There is nothing wrong with asking questions, just as long as it appears that you have done some digging already. What I found from doing Fundies is GUE expects it's divers to have some capability to think - problem solving is a skill that is expected of you. The courses are definitely not 'Monkey See, monkey do...', they are courses where you are given the problem and a possible solution or some pointers but it is you who has to work it out. HTH Gareth

April 24th, 2006, 11:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,955	Quote: (Originally Posted by TAZA) After having being told on several occasions regarding searching for previous threads,I did a search on fitting a 90deg elbow to the first stage but with no results, So to keep the click happy I will keep my mouth shut until I have completed the fundies course. So to all who have been helpful a big thanks. No problems TAZA, but you have to think about why the elbow joint would be really needed? There isn't too much stress placed on the hose and the elbow provides another failure point. To reduce the angles on the hoses, the DS4's are placed horizontally, if you tilt them inwards the angle increases, even then it is still useable as that is how I have my DS4's, Explorer and ECS setup.