Lighthead boltsnaps?

anders · January 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM

I´ve heard that the way to go on rigging this is to have a snap at the handle, and some kind of loop at the back of the ballast for a double ender to allow for temporary storing of an "on" light without blinding your buddy - does anyone have a photo of this rigging?

mvh
Anders

**neilh** · January 9th, 2006, 05:06 PM

Like this? (Apologies, it's a bit big!)

davy · January 10th, 2006, 10:09 AM

What is the knot called you used there?

Tricky · January 10th, 2006, 11:42 AM

It's a square, or reef, knot.

Sterny · January 10th, 2006, 12:16 PM

I've heard this too, and thanks for the photo because I've not seen anyone else's lighthead with the new loop thingy on it yet.

Why is it done like this? What's wrong with a boltsnap tied on in the same place as the bungie loop in that picture?

vid · January 10th, 2006, 12:31 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sterny)

Why is it done like this? What's wrong with a boltsnap tied on in the same place as the bungie loop in that picture?

iirc this is a second connection, rather than a replacement for the bolt-snap on the handle, and a temporary connection at that. a double ender can be easily removed. otherwise you'd have an extra bolt snap hanging from the light head most of the time, which is superfluousw

vid

Divingniknaks · January 10th, 2006, 01:33 PM

Guys, I know you weren't on the board at the time but this got discussed here a while back

Updates from GUE - Lampheads

The GUE "conference" of the great and good discussed this back in November and the "new" thinking is that this way is a better way now.

HTH

Gareth Burrows · January 10th, 2006, 01:38 PM

so dies the double-ender stay on the chest D ring durin gthe dive, or does the whole assembly stay attached to the torch

Gary Moffat · January 10th, 2006, 01:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf)

so dies the double-ender stay on the chest D ring durin gthe dive, or does the whole assembly stay attached to the torch

I have the double ender clipped on to my D ring, use it when needed and then clip is back when done.

Little Pete · January 10th, 2006, 02:01 PM

One issue I have had with using this setup is the clipping off at the end of a dive.

When Al and I did the Gavin dive the other day we both clipped off on the rear attachment while we re-attached the trigger pins and prepped for ascent. This was fine but when we turned out lights and fully stowed them for the ascent he did it much more quickly with two bolt snaps. I unclipped from the D-ring then had to unclip the double ender from the bungy, attach it to the D-ring then get the bolt snap and attach that. All this in 4m of water with a slightly nose light Gavin meant my ascent wasn't the best it could be :p

Presumably with practise it becomes better and easier but is the entanglement issue of the second boltnap that much?

January 9th, 2006, 04:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
anders(Offline) andersbomholdt.dk Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 156	Lighthead boltsnaps? I´ve heard that the way to go on rigging this is to have a snap at the handle, and some kind of loop at the back of the ballast for a double ender to allow for temporary storing of an "on" light without blinding your buddy - does anyone have a photo of this rigging? mvh Anders

January 9th, 2006, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
neilh (Online) Haemoglobin on the bus... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 1,900	Like this? (Apologies, it's a bit big!) Last edited by Clare Gledhill; January 9th, 2006 at 05:10 PM. Reason: scale down picture

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Sterny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The limpid tropical lagoons of Ealing, West London Posts: 550	I've heard this too, and thanks for the photo because I've not seen anyone else's lighthead with the new loop thingy on it yet. Why is it done like this? What's wrong with a boltsnap tied on in the same place as the bungie loop in that picture? __________________ "I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes

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Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Guys, I know you weren't on the board at the time but this got discussed here a while back Updates from GUE - Lampheads The GUE "conference" of the great and good discussed this back in November and the "new" thinking is that this way is a better way now. HTH __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

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davy (Online) DIveR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 275	What is the knot called you used there?

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vid(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: london/surrey border, UK Posts: 353	Quote: (Originally Posted by Sterny) Why is it done like this? What's wrong with a boltsnap tied on in the same place as the bungie loop in that picture? iirc this is a second connection, rather than a replacement for the bolt-snap on the handle, and a temporary connection at that. a double ender can be easily removed. otherwise you'd have an extra bolt snap hanging from the light head most of the time, which is superfluousw vid

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Gary Moffat(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Lothian Posts: 120	Quote: (Originally Posted by Garf) so dies the double-ender stay on the chest D ring durin gthe dive, or does the whole assembly stay attached to the torch I have the double ender clipped on to my D ring, use it when needed and then clip is back when done.

January 10th, 2006, 02:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Little Pete(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 509	One issue I have had with using this setup is the clipping off at the end of a dive. When Al and I did the Gavin dive the other day we both clipped off on the rear attachment while we re-attached the trigger pins and prepped for ascent. This was fine but when we turned out lights and fully stowed them for the ascent he did it much more quickly with two bolt snaps. I unclipped from the D-ring then had to unclip the double ender from the bungy, attach it to the D-ring then get the bolt snap and attach that. All this in 4m of water with a slightly nose light Gavin meant my ascent wasn't the best it could be :p Presumably with practise it becomes better and easier but is the entanglement issue of the second boltnap that much?