Wrench in the pocket?

MKDVR · January 9th, 2006, 04:29 AM

Do many of you carry a wrench in the pocket or is that more of a neccessity for the rebreather people?

TobinGeorge · January 9th, 2006, 05:16 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by MKDVR)

Do many of you carry a wrench in the pocket or is that more of a neccessity for the rebreather people?

Rebreather divers need to tow a rollaway :D

Tobin

QBU · January 9th, 2006, 08:26 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by TobinGeorge)

Rebreather divers need to tow a rollaway :D

Tobin

:D

Always carry a tool kit and various spare parts in the vehicle.

WaterDawg · January 9th, 2006, 10:02 AM

I think he means while diving. Ive seen some people do this, but Im not sure how usefull it would be.

Mark Chase · January 9th, 2006, 11:09 AM

No need for a wrench on a dive unless your unbolting stuff off of shipwrecks :D

Check dive kit before the dive check it again at 6m and anything that can be screwed by silt dirt etc during the dive should be fixable or you should have redundant means to get back to normal breathing air.

As a CCR diver myself i can assure you the preview checks are even more critical than on OC and yes an extensive tool kit and spairs kit is there to cover the damed thing breaking.

ATB

Mark Chase

*peter_steinhoff* · January 9th, 2006, 07:35 PM

The wrench is only for the RB when you need to convert regular stages to drive bottles while diving in a place where there are safeties (like Wakulla).

Best,
Peter

Mark Chase · January 9th, 2006, 09:58 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by peter_steinhoff)

The wrench is only for the RB when you need to convert regular stages to drive bottles while diving in a place where there are safeties (like Wakulla).

Best,
Peter

You learn something new every day.

Thanks for that.

ATB

Mark Chase

TDave · January 9th, 2006, 10:10 PM

The last I heard was that this was mission-dependant and tied in with the whole 'finger-tight' debate.

Now, what the 'actual DIR' answer is I can't claim to know but apparently the latest from GUE was that connections should be tightened more than finger tight at all times and hence a spanner should be carried if it is mission sensitive that you may need to unscrew it. Which to me sounds a little bit convoluted. I can understand tightening up more than finger tight as the majority of people either don't check the connection before pressurising or, if it has come slightly undone, try to tighten it back up whilst under pressure, usually nipping the O-Ring.

Personally I dive my regs finger-tight still right now and just check them before pressurising, although I am toying with tightening them up properly in which case I will carry a spanner in my left pocket purely from a standard pocket contents point of view.

I have not yet had to swap a second stage underwater, but have had a team mate swap theres (actually they swapped the whole reg as it was easier than just the second stage). I guess it depends on your environment.

NOTE: I have not dived cave or rebreather.

January 9th, 2006, 04:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
MKDVR(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 29	Wrench in the pocket? Do many of you carry a wrench in the pocket or is that more of a neccessity for the rebreather people?

January 9th, 2006, 08:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
QBU(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Okinawa Posts: 121	Quote: (Originally Posted by TobinGeorge) Rebreather divers need to tow a rollaway :D Tobin :D Always carry a tool kit and various spare parts in the vehicle. __________________ "C"

January 9th, 2006, 11:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	No need for a wrench on a dive unless your unbolting stuff off of shipwrecks :D Check dive kit before the dive check it again at 6m and anything that can be screwed by silt dirt etc during the dive should be fixable or you should have redundant means to get back to normal breathing air. As a CCR diver myself i can assure you the preview checks are even more critical than on OC and yes an extensive tool kit and spairs kit is there to cover the damed thing breaking. ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

January 9th, 2006, 07:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
peter_steinhoff(Offline) Instructor candidate Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden & Florida Posts: 205	The wrench is only for the RB when you need to convert regular stages to drive bottles while diving in a place where there are safeties (like Wakulla). Best, Peter __________________ Peter Steinhoff GUE DIR-F, Tech1, Tech2, Cave1, Cave2, Cave3, RB80-1&2, DIR-F/Cave Instructor Candidate. NAUI Tec Instructor (Trimix, Technical DPV, Technical Wreck Penenetration etc) WKPP Support Diver, Halcyon Product Development Team, Gavinscooter Representative. Various IANTD, NSS-CDS, NACD, PADI & NAUI. ---------------------------------------------- http://dir-diver.com http://peter.steinhoff.se (swedish only)

January 9th, 2006, 09:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by peter_steinhoff) The wrench is only for the RB when you need to convert regular stages to drive bottles while diving in a place where there are safeties (like Wakulla). Best, Peter You learn something new every day. Thanks for that. ATB Mark Chase __________________ The only DIR Inspiration diver in the village

January 9th, 2006, 05:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
TobinGeorge (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 566	Quote: (Originally Posted by MKDVR) Do many of you carry a wrench in the pocket or is that more of a neccessity for the rebreather people? Rebreather divers need to tow a rollaway :D Tobin

January 9th, 2006, 10:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
WaterDawg(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: FL Posts: 28	I think he means while diving. Ive seen some people do this, but Im not sure how usefull it would be.

January 9th, 2006, 10:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
TDave(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lancaster, UK Posts: 93	The last I heard was that this was mission-dependant and tied in with the whole 'finger-tight' debate. Now, what the 'actual DIR' answer is I can't claim to know but apparently the latest from GUE was that connections should be tightened more than finger tight at all times and hence a spanner should be carried if it is mission sensitive that you may need to unscrew it. Which to me sounds a little bit convoluted. I can understand tightening up more than finger tight as the majority of people either don't check the connection before pressurising or, if it has come slightly undone, try to tighten it back up whilst under pressure, usually nipping the O-Ring. Personally I dive my regs finger-tight still right now and just check them before pressurising, although I am toying with tightening them up properly in which case I will carry a spanner in my left pocket purely from a standard pocket contents point of view. I have not yet had to swap a second stage underwater, but have had a team mate swap theres (actually they swapped the whole reg as it was easier than just the second stage). I guess it depends on your environment. NOTE: I have not dived cave or rebreather.