4.5ft DSMB storage

fraser · January 5th, 2006, 01:26 AM

Hi all,

Does anyone have a link or a pic of how to fold the 4.5ft Halcyon bag so it deploys as you pull it from the storage pak?

AG used to demonstrate it on Tech1 but I have completely forgotten

Cheers,

Fraser.

vid · January 5th, 2006, 10:04 AM

dont' you just flake (think concertina) the dsmb material, rather than roll it up?

vid

Ian S · January 5th, 2006, 11:53 AM

While holding the top start to make folds down 4 41/2 inches (i.e. the width of the MC pack) It should look flat rather than rolled.

One you've got it all folded slip into the MC pack but leave about 2-3 inches showing, if you stuff it all in it's really hard to pull out. Then Clip to waist D-ring

Well that's how I was shown, HTH

Sterny · January 5th, 2006, 01:30 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ian S)

Then Clip to waist D-ring

Presumably the one at the back, not the hip one...?

davy · January 5th, 2006, 02:49 PM

I clip it to the hip too.
much easier...

Ian S · January 5th, 2006, 03:39 PM

Sorry that's what I meant the hip one

Sterny · January 5th, 2006, 03:48 PM

Aah - interesting. I can see the advantage of this in that the hip D-ring is easier to get to (is this still the case if you have stages? - I guess since the stages are also clipped off there it must be okay). What (apart from the clip itself) do you have running between the flaked DSMB in the storage pouch and the D-ring, though. Presumably you don't want things flapping about too much!

Ali Fikree · January 5th, 2006, 04:06 PM

I keep mine in the right pocket of my wetsuit or drysuit.Its with my B/U mask and spool.

Using multi stages and scooters can make it a PIA to pull of of the MC pack while on the fly.

A

davy · January 5th, 2006, 04:10 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sterny)

Aah - interesting. I can see the advantage of this in that the hip D-ring is easier to get to (is this still the case if you have stages? - I guess since the stages are also clipped off there it must be okay). What (apart from the clip itself) do you have running between the flaked DSMB in the storage pouch and the D-ring, though. Presumably you don't want things flapping about too much!

yes, I used it with SPG, 2 AL80 stages and a reel clipped to the hip.
It takes some organizing, but works just fine.
I clip the lift bag right at the bottom of the D-ring so it lays flat against my body and the SPG goes on top of that, stages added above.

My lift bag actually has a piece of webbing from the bottom of the bag to the clip which is just the perfect length to clip at the hip. (I use the open 60lb halcyon liftbag and used the 4.5ft. SMB before which IIRC also has a long enough piece of webbing)
This webbing generally runs between my body and the wreck argon bottle so nothing's flapping. but works just as fine with cave argon setup.

To get it just reach your SPG, pull it up if you have to to expose the lift bag clip, clip it off and pull the bag straight out.

I prefer it this way, but none of my buddies do this :-) however, don't think any of them even tried it either ;-)

One tip already mentioned before... don't push the bag all the way up the storage pack, that makes it very hard to pull it out.
I always folded it into a square package the width of the storage pack opening with the dump valve facing and fitting in the groove of the back plate and left ~2cm hanging out from the bottom of the storage pack.

Sterny · January 5th, 2006, 04:55 PM

Thanks for such a comprehensive answer davy - very well explained! Does anyone else do it like this too, or do it differently?

January 5th, 2006, 01:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	4.5ft DSMB storage Hi all, Does anyone have a link or a pic of how to fold the 4.5ft Halcyon bag so it deploys as you pull it from the storage pak? AG used to demonstrate it on Tech1 but I have completely forgotten Cheers, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

January 5th, 2006, 01:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sterny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The limpid tropical lagoons of Ealing, West London Posts: 550	Quote: (Originally Posted by Ian S) Then Clip to waist D-ring Presumably the one at the back, not the hip one...? __________________ "I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes

January 5th, 2006, 03:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sterny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The limpid tropical lagoons of Ealing, West London Posts: 550	Aah - interesting. I can see the advantage of this in that the hip D-ring is easier to get to (is this still the case if you have stages? - I guess since the stages are also clipped off there it must be okay). What (apart from the clip itself) do you have running between the flaked DSMB in the storage pouch and the D-ring, though. Presumably you don't want things flapping about too much! __________________ "I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes

January 5th, 2006, 04:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sterny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The limpid tropical lagoons of Ealing, West London Posts: 550	Thanks for such a comprehensive answer davy - very well explained! Does anyone else do it like this too, or do it differently? __________________ "I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes

January 5th, 2006, 10:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
vid(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: london/surrey border, UK Posts: 353	dont' you just flake (think concertina) the dsmb material, rather than roll it up? vid

January 5th, 2006, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	While holding the top start to make folds down 4 41/2 inches (i.e. the width of the MC pack) It should look flat rather than rolled. One you've got it all folded slip into the MC pack but leave about 2-3 inches showing, if you stuff it all in it's really hard to pull out. Then Clip to waist D-ring Well that's how I was shown, HTH

January 5th, 2006, 02:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
davy (Online) DIveR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 275	I clip it to the hip too. much easier...

January 5th, 2006, 03:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	Sorry that's what I meant the hip one

January 5th, 2006, 04:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ali Fikree (Online) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 460	I keep mine in the right pocket of my wetsuit or drysuit.Its with my B/U mask and spool. Using multi stages and scooters can make it a PIA to pull of of the MC pack while on the fly. A

January 5th, 2006, 04:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
davy (Online) DIveR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 275	Quote: (Originally Posted by Sterny) Aah - interesting. I can see the advantage of this in that the hip D-ring is easier to get to (is this still the case if you have stages? - I guess since the stages are also clipped off there it must be okay). What (apart from the clip itself) do you have running between the flaked DSMB in the storage pouch and the D-ring, though. Presumably you don't want things flapping about too much! yes, I used it with SPG, 2 AL80 stages and a reel clipped to the hip. It takes some organizing, but works just fine. I clip the lift bag right at the bottom of the D-ring so it lays flat against my body and the SPG goes on top of that, stages added above. My lift bag actually has a piece of webbing from the bottom of the bag to the clip which is just the perfect length to clip at the hip. (I use the open 60lb halcyon liftbag and used the 4.5ft. SMB before which IIRC also has a long enough piece of webbing) This webbing generally runs between my body and the wreck argon bottle so nothing's flapping. but works just as fine with cave argon setup. To get it just reach your SPG, pull it up if you have to to expose the lift bag clip, clip it off and pull the bag straight out. I prefer it this way, but none of my buddies do this :-) however, don't think any of them even tried it either ;-) One tip already mentioned before... don't push the bag all the way up the storage pack, that makes it very hard to pull it out. I always folded it into a square package the width of the storage pack opening with the dump valve facing and fitting in the groove of the back plate and left ~2cm hanging out from the bottom of the storage pack.