What glue to use for PVC (battery pack)

movil · July 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application.

On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Jorge

graham_hk · July 8th, 2008, 10:39 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by movil)

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application.

On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Jorge

PVC cement - plumbers use it for joining together sections of PVC plumbing pipe (it actually melts the PVC allowing you to stick two pieces together.

*JGrogan* · July 8th, 2008, 11:39 AM

Aruldite.

This is a 2-part glue. You have to mix the glue and the binder together first, then apply to the batteries. I've built a number of battery packs with this and it has never failed.

John.

Quote: (Originally Posted by movil)

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application.

On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Jorge

movil · July 8th, 2008, 03:28 PM

Thank you both for your advice.

I think I'll give a try to Araldite (seems to be the brand name here in Spain).
Never thought I would be doing so much DIYing with diving gear :-)

Cheers
Jorge

Quote: (Originally Posted by JGrogan)

Aruldite.

This is a 2-part glue. You have to mix the glue and the binder together first, then apply to the batteries. I've built a number of battery packs with this and it has never failed.

John.

*JGrogan* · July 8th, 2008, 04:17 PM

You always get to a point where it makes more sense to figure out how to do this stuff yourself. Whether it's rebuilding battery packs, scooter modifications, doing your own reg servicing.

I always find it more satisfying to know that I've done it myself!
Best,
John.

Quote: (Originally Posted by movil)

Never thought I would be doing so much DIYing with diving gear :-)

JGuarro · July 8th, 2008, 04:56 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by movil)

Thank you both for your advice.

I think I'll give a try to Araldite (seems to be the brand name here in Spain).

Just keep in mind that if you ever need to replace the batteries, it may become dificult to un-glue the PVC bulkhead and the support for the bannana socket if you use Araldit or other glue like that.

I always use a silicone sealant gun (the one that is used to seal everyting in the bathroom) to glue the PVC bulheads to the batery packs, then using a cutter it is very easy to remove the batteries when you need to replace them and you can use again the bulkhead and the socket support with the new batteries

Josep

lizardland · July 8th, 2008, 06:01 PM

I'd be careful with PVC cement, it's a solvent and works by chemically melting the plastic and forming a welded joint. On some plastics it won't have any effect, on some it will... I've no idea what battery cases are made from but I wouldn't want to melt a hole in one

Hot melt glue guns are great, strong but you can remove with a bit of effort as well.

graham_hk · July 8th, 2008, 06:25 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

I'd be careful with PVC cement, it's a solvent and works by chemically melting the plastic and forming a welded joint. On some plastics it won't have any effect, on some it will... I've no idea what battery cases are made from but I wouldn't want to melt a hole in one

Hot melt glue guns are great, strong but you can remove with a bit of effort as well.

They are made from PVC as was the bulkhead - apart from fiddly little airfix bits its pretty hard to melt a hole in something.

**jb2cool** · July 8th, 2008, 07:58 PM

If using Araldite, maker sure you mix it really well else you'll get patches that don't set quite right and they remain sticky (At least it seemed to for me).

movil · July 10th, 2008, 09:33 AM

Thank you everyone for the useful advice.

My plan is to make a spare battery pack, so the parts are all brand new.

I have used Araldite. Although it may seem that it could be difficult to remove, it isn't really. You can easily take off the bulkhead once it's glued to the batteries. In any case, my current battery pack still works, so I'm not planning to break it to make a new one.

In the end I got some offcuts of PVC (slab) and Polythene (disk) from a local technical plastic supplier. I have used the latter due to it being easier to work as it is the right shape.

Cheers
Jorge

July 8th, 2008, 08:35 AM	#1 (permalink)
movil (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 36	What glue to use for PVC (battery pack) Hello everyone, I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application. On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Jorge

July 8th, 2008, 10:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
graham_hk(Offline) Pinoy ako pinoy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: here, there and everywhere Posts: 779	Quote: (Originally Posted by movil) Hello everyone, I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application. On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Jorge PVC cement - plumbers use it for joining together sections of PVC plumbing pipe (it actually melts the PVC allowing you to stick two pieces together. __________________ DIN caps and plugs with free world wide postage: www.dustcap.halcyon-hk.com Last edited by graham_hk; July 8th, 2008 at 01:42 PM.

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lizardland(Offline) LCS Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Evidently Chickentown Posts: 591	I'd be careful with PVC cement, it's a solvent and works by chemically melting the plastic and forming a welded joint. On some plastics it won't have any effect, on some it will... I've no idea what battery cases are made from but I wouldn't want to melt a hole in one Hot melt glue guns are great, strong but you can remove with a bit of effort as well. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk The Lot isn't the only place to dive: http://www.lulu.com/content/613554

July 8th, 2008, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
graham_hk(Offline) Pinoy ako pinoy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: here, there and everywhere Posts: 779	Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) I'd be careful with PVC cement, it's a solvent and works by chemically melting the plastic and forming a welded joint. On some plastics it won't have any effect, on some it will... I've no idea what battery cases are made from but I wouldn't want to melt a hole in one Hot melt glue guns are great, strong but you can remove with a bit of effort as well. They are made from PVC as was the bulkhead - apart from fiddly little airfix bits its pretty hard to melt a hole in something. __________________ DIN caps and plugs with free world wide postage: www.dustcap.halcyon-hk.com

July 8th, 2008, 07:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
jb2cool (Online) Padawan learner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire Posts: 796	If using Araldite, maker sure you mix it really well else you'll get patches that don't set quite right and they remain sticky (At least it seemed to for me). __________________ http://jb2cool.bulldoghome.com

July 8th, 2008, 11:39 AM	#3 (permalink)
JGrogan(Offline) GUE Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 439	Aruldite. This is a 2-part glue. You have to mix the glue and the binder together first, then apply to the batteries. I've built a number of battery packs with this and it has never failed. John. Quote: (Originally Posted by movil) Hello everyone, I am in the process of making a battery pack for my Halcyon 10w HID (old style). I have sourced all the required parts and now I need to glue the bulkhead (PVC) to the batteries (lead acid PS1229L). This bulkhead (for lack of a better name) also serves as support of a socket for a banana-type plug. I was wondering whether there is a specific type of glue to use for this application. On a similar note, is there a specific type of glue used for the batteries themselves? The pack is made out of 2 identical ones glued together. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Jorge

July 8th, 2008, 03:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
movil (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 36	Thank you both for your advice. I think I'll give a try to Araldite (seems to be the brand name here in Spain). Never thought I would be doing so much DIYing with diving gear :-) Cheers Jorge Quote: (Originally Posted by JGrogan) Aruldite. This is a 2-part glue. You have to mix the glue and the binder together first, then apply to the batteries. I've built a number of battery packs with this and it has never failed. John.

July 8th, 2008, 04:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
JGrogan(Offline) GUE Join Date: May 2006 Location: London Posts: 439	You always get to a point where it makes more sense to figure out how to do this stuff yourself. Whether it's rebuilding battery packs, scooter modifications, doing your own reg servicing. I always find it more satisfying to know that I've done it myself! Best, John. Quote: (Originally Posted by movil) Never thought I would be doing so much DIYing with diving gear :-)

July 8th, 2008, 04:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
JGuarro(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Barcelona Posts: 30	Quote: (Originally Posted by movil) Thank you both for your advice. I think I'll give a try to Araldite (seems to be the brand name here in Spain). Just keep in mind that if you ever need to replace the batteries, it may become dificult to un-glue the PVC bulkhead and the support for the bannana socket if you use Araldit or other glue like that. I always use a silicone sealant gun (the one that is used to seal everyting in the bathroom) to glue the PVC bulheads to the batery packs, then using a cutter it is very easy to remove the batteries when you need to replace them and you can use again the bulkhead and the socket support with the new batteries Josep

July 10th, 2008, 09:33 AM	#10 (permalink)
movil (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 36	Thank you everyone for the useful advice. My plan is to make a spare battery pack, so the parts are all brand new. I have used Araldite. Although it may seem that it could be difficult to remove, it isn't really. You can easily take off the bulkhead once it's glued to the batteries. In any case, my current battery pack still works, so I'm not planning to break it to make a new one. In the end I got some offcuts of PVC (slab) and Polythene (disk) from a local technical plastic supplier. I have used the latter due to it being easier to work as it is the right shape. Cheers Jorge