Arm is getting wet

***Fiona*** · April 27th, 2008, 12:26 PM

I realise there will be some smart answers

I dived two weeks ago and again yesterday and each time I am getting a wet arm, I have a DUI suit with high profile shoulder dump.

How do I remove the dump it doesn't seem to move

and yes I already know what DUI stands for

Mal Bridgeman · April 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona)

I realise there will be some smart answers

I dived two weeks ago and again yesterday and each time I am getting a wet arm, I have a DUI suit with high profile shoulder dump.

How do I remove the dump it doesn't seem to move

and yes I already know what DUI stands for

Hi Fi

Are you diving with the dump hard open?

If I do that it can leak too, so now I just click it closed one or two clicks and don't seem to have the problem so much....and it does not affect suit dumping noticably.

I think they put silicon on the threads so they take some removing....

HTH
Mal

***Fiona*** · April 27th, 2008, 12:50 PM

Yes fully open Mal.

I'll give your suggestion a try next time and see what happens.

Ta.

Hugh · April 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM

"I know there are some smart answers"

Your putting your arm too far into the sink when doing women's work!

Hugh

On a serious note, my apeks would leak if fully open, uusally half turn back is sufficient.

Martin Burnard · April 27th, 2008, 01:10 PM

I have a Polar Bear with a high dump valve. It shits half way up its back!

On a more serious note my suit will give me a slightly damp arm in the same way as Mal mentioned, 1 click does the job for me.

*Hassan Adly* · April 27th, 2008, 01:15 PM

Hello Fiona,

As mentioned above, if your high-profile dump valve is leaking, you can reduce the problem by keeping it closed. In my opinion this is a temporary solution because you must remember to open it to dump it when necessary. Forgetting it during ascent can cause buoyancy control issues. Usually it's not a problem, but a diver under any kind of stress might easily forget.

You can't just screw off the dump valve like on non-DUI suits. The threads are fixated with silicon sealant or something similar. DUI uses a special tool to unscrew the dump valves, trying to use your hands or the wrong tool can damage the valve.

You can however, disassemble the valve mechanism. First remove the top part of the valve (on the side of the valve there is a retaining thingy). It will come off along with the spring and a couple of other widgets.. On the inner side of the valve you snap off the cover to reveal three screws. Unscrew those and the whole valve mechanism comes out. Now you can clean it and re-assemble it. When reassembling the top part of the valve, there is a marker that you use to properly align the valve lid. If misaligned, the valve will not function properly (the range of movement of the screw will be limited and the suit will not auto-dump properly).

This doesn't always solve the problem. If it still leaks you should replace the valve. If you don't want to send your suit to DUI for valve replacement, you can purchase the Apeks high-profile auto dump valve and replace just the inner part of the DUI valve with it. The parts are interchangeable.

I hope this helps, best regards,

***Fiona*** · April 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM

Thanks Hassan you don't know my maintenance abilities

I think I'll try the turning back a click option first, if that doesn't work I'll get a man in

Leg of Salmon · April 27th, 2008, 01:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona)

if that doesn't work I'll get a man in

probably more fun than going diving

*Hassan Adly* · April 27th, 2008, 01:53 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona)

Thanks Hassan you don't know my maintenance abilities

I think I'll try the turning back a click option first, if that doesn't work I'll get a man in

Fair enough

Mal Bridgeman · April 27th, 2008, 02:47 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Hassan Adly)

Hello Fiona,

As mentioned above, if your high-profile dump valve is leaking, you can reduce the problem by keeping it closed.

Hassan, I was not suggesting it should be *closed* merely wound in a click or two from fully open.

HTH
Mal

April 27th, 2008, 12:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
*Fiona*(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Up North Posts: 1,203	Arm is getting wet I realise there will be some smart answers I dived two weeks ago and again yesterday and each time I am getting a wet arm, I have a DUI suit with high profile shoulder dump. How do I remove the dump it doesn't seem to move and yes I already know what DUI stands for __________________ Fiona Resistance was Futile Move Along YD GUE Member

April 27th, 2008, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Mal Bridgeman(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 662	Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona) I realise there will be some smart answers I dived two weeks ago and again yesterday and each time I am getting a wet arm, I have a DUI suit with high profile shoulder dump. How do I remove the dump it doesn't seem to move and yes I already know what DUI stands for Hi Fi Are you diving with the dump hard open? If I do that it can leak too, so now I just click it closed one or two clicks and don't seem to have the problem so much....and it does not affect suit dumping noticably. I think they put silicon on the threads so they take some removing.... HTH Mal __________________ Opinions and beliefs are correct at the time of posting but are subject to change without any notice or obligation on the part of the author.

April 27th, 2008, 12:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Fiona*(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Up North Posts: 1,203	Yes fully open Mal. I'll give your suggestion a try next time and see what happens. Ta. __________________ Fiona Resistance was Futile Move Along YD GUE Member

April 27th, 2008, 12:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hugh (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Australia Posts: 65	"I know there are some smart answers" Your putting your arm too far into the sink when doing women's work! Hugh On a serious note, my apeks would leak if fully open, uusally half turn back is sufficient. Last edited by Hugh; April 27th, 2008 at 01:21 PM.

April 27th, 2008, 01:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Martin Burnard(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 580	I have a Polar Bear with a high dump valve. It shits half way up its back! On a more serious note my suit will give me a slightly damp arm in the same way as Mal mentioned, 1 click does the job for me. __________________ I once enjoyed a sado-masachistic frenzy of total tintintabulation leading to a state of metampsychosis... or did I make that up? www.bananafrogcars.co.uk

April 27th, 2008, 01:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Hassan Adly (Online) GUE Instructor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Red Sea Posts: 287	Hello Fiona, As mentioned above, if your high-profile dump valve is leaking, you can reduce the problem by keeping it closed. In my opinion this is a temporary solution because you must remember to open it to dump it when necessary. Forgetting it during ascent can cause buoyancy control issues. Usually it's not a problem, but a diver under any kind of stress might easily forget. You can't just screw off the dump valve like on non-DUI suits. The threads are fixated with silicon sealant or something similar. DUI uses a special tool to unscrew the dump valves, trying to use your hands or the wrong tool can damage the valve. You can however, disassemble the valve mechanism. First remove the top part of the valve (on the side of the valve there is a retaining thingy). It will come off along with the spring and a couple of other widgets.. On the inner side of the valve you snap off the cover to reveal three screws. Unscrew those and the whole valve mechanism comes out. Now you can clean it and re-assemble it. When reassembling the top part of the valve, there is a marker that you use to properly align the valve lid. If misaligned, the valve will not function properly (the range of movement of the screw will be limited and the suit will not auto-dump properly). This doesn't always solve the problem. If it still leaks you should replace the valve. If you don't want to send your suit to DUI for valve replacement, you can purchase the Apeks high-profile auto dump valve and replace just the inner part of the DUI valve with it. The parts are interchangeable. I hope this helps, best regards, __________________ Hassan Adly Red Sea Discovery "Today I will finally see the sea again, which will smell of salt, wind, sand - and the cold of winter. Finally I will not only travel on it but dive in it, again I will become water, a bird - and I will remember the feeling of gliding above the abyss" Elena Sundukova, tragically lost at sea, January 2007

April 27th, 2008, 01:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Fiona*(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Up North Posts: 1,203	Thanks Hassan you don't know my maintenance abilities I think I'll try the turning back a click option first, if that doesn't work I'll get a man in __________________ Fiona Resistance was Futile Move Along YD GUE Member

April 27th, 2008, 01:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Leg of Salmon (Online) New Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Belfast Posts: 131	Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona) if that doesn't work I'll get a man in probably more fun than going diving

April 27th, 2008, 01:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hassan Adly (Online) GUE Instructor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Red Sea Posts: 287	Quote: (Originally Posted by Fiona) Thanks Hassan you don't know my maintenance abilities I think I'll try the turning back a click option first, if that doesn't work I'll get a man in Fair enough __________________ Hassan Adly Red Sea Discovery "Today I will finally see the sea again, which will smell of salt, wind, sand - and the cold of winter. Finally I will not only travel on it but dive in it, again I will become water, a bird - and I will remember the feeling of gliding above the abyss" Elena Sundukova, tragically lost at sea, January 2007

April 27th, 2008, 02:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Mal Bridgeman(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Suffolk, UK Posts: 662	Quote: (Originally Posted by Hassan Adly) Hello Fiona, As mentioned above, if your high-profile dump valve is leaking, you can reduce the problem by keeping it closed. Hassan, I was not suggesting it should be closed merely wound in a click or two from fully open. HTH Mal __________________ Opinions and beliefs are correct at the time of posting but are subject to change without any notice or obligation on the part of the author.