Digger(Offline)

OK, now it seems to me that metal to metal connections are a bad thing. DIR seems to feel the same way.

Now, on top of this I see a lot of DIR diver using a double ender to attach their reels.

Personally I find of all the gear which can get caught in lines, reels aren't half bad at getting a loop of line around them.

So, why not use cave line to attach a boltsnap? I've just attached one on my reel, using a decent sized clip, and I can't see a downside.

Do you need the double ender for something else? Don't you have a spare double ender on a D-ring somewhere anyway?

I've also seen the look on a mates face when his H reel disappeared into the abyss (to be recovered on the next dive) when the double ender was the wrong way around and unclipped itself.

Maybe I've missed something important. But I can't see it. Seems like a no brainer.

Digs.

PfcAJ(Offline)

Well, having a dangly boltsnap on a reel is just a pain when doing tieoffs. With a double ender, you can get that thing out of the way so its cleaner.

The metal to metal connection thing really refers to hard attachments, like using those little chain link things to secure boltsnaps. Dive Rite's regular handle reels are a prime example of that I'm talking about. If the snap jams, you're done.

A double ender has two points that must jam before it can no longer be removed. Slim chance of that happening on properly maintained gear.

and the solution to not losing reels is to clip it off properly

caverkevin(Offline)

I would think for gentleman that mounts his rebreather in a shopping cart, the last thing to worry about is a clip on a reel.

Fiona(Offline)

Harsh but true

Although I think he has a real one nowadays

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jluttichau(Offline)

As i understand it, that is what is being taught because a lot of people seem to loose their reels due to the dobbeltender.

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Jonas

MartyC(Offline)

Digs,
Just cos you've learned to tie them on properley doesn't mean everything has to have cave line attached .
Have you decided what you're doing next yet? I've just signed up for Fundies in October if you're tempted

Marty

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Digger(Offline)

OK, I'm not sure how a boltsnap gets in the way on a tie off? Can someone explain a bit more?

My suggestion with the Halcyon type reels would be to tie it off in such a way that when in use you can turn the boltsnap so it's against the handle. Tucked out of the way. Obviously it's not as clean as no clip at all, but it also means you can easily clip it off to the line or yourself without finding the double ender you've taken off.

You do take the double ender off to use it don't you? You'll have to bear with me because I can't remember what any of the DIR lot did last time I saw them laying line.

Marty, no decisions yet. Not got the funds to do fundies right now, partly because it doesn't get me any further towards my end goal, and partly because I've not decided on how best to get there yet. But I don't think it's going to be the GUE route.

And yes, the shopping basket has gone. Well, actually everything except the basket has gone. I still have that in the garage - Offers anyone?

Digs.

Anders Knudsen (Online)

I have a bolt snap attached with cave line to my reel, that is what I was taught on my DIR-F due to the point that it is very easy to loose the reel when it is attached with a doubelender.

I would shov you if I could -

/AK

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Digger(Offline)

I see. Sounds like there's some variance here, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

I just couldn't see what using a double ender stood to gain over a boltsnap. I suppose personal preference might be the order of the day.

Digs.

rjack(Offline)

When you're passing the reel around something (typically a closed station like a column) a dangly clip can get snagged in the loose line fairly easily. I was taught using a double ender (although it can only be clipped one way) and it suits me just fine. I am not concerned about the metal to metal connection since there are 2 ways to unconnect it.

Richard