Dirzone D12 Eurocylinders twin 12s- Wing choice ?

Jon987 · June 19th, 2007, 07:42 PM

Hi,

Interested to hear from people who dive the Eurocylinders twin 12s, given its extra length over the ubiquitous and neck heavy Fabers, whether the 40lb provides the right amount of in-water support/balance to achieve horizontal trim?

Interested to hear if the 40Lb explorer still cuts it with this lengther cylinder.

Thanks Jon

wilbo · June 19th, 2007, 07:55 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jon987)

Hi,

Interested to hear from people who dive the Eurocylinders twin 12s, given its extra length over the ubiquitous and neck heavy Fabers, whether the 40lb provides the right amount of in-water support/balance to achieve horizontal trim?

Interested to hear if the 40Lb explorer still cuts it with this lengther cylinder.

Thanks Jon

the euro cylinders (ECS) will trim out better than the fabers - as (as you suggest) they are better balanced themselves.

The explorer 40 is fine with the ECS - as is the Evolve/Agir Brok 38lb/the Frog Midnight etc..

GLOC · June 19th, 2007, 07:56 PM

Yep, I use an Explorer and have no issues with trimming it out and with one stage and an SLR rig and heisers/heavy ECS, it provides me with enough buoyancy.

Igor Beades · June 19th, 2007, 08:58 PM

I have been using ECSs with Explorer 40 for years (I meant ECS 12s @13,1 and 13,2 kilos) and they work fine for many people here, in Spain.

I am curious about Agir 38 and/or OMS LGS45 pattern. Would like any input about these combinations.

Cheers,

*Brian Allen* · June 19th, 2007, 09:35 PM

Take your pick, it's very hard even for a very experienced diver to note the difference between an AGIR 38, an Explorer 40, or an Evolve 40 while diving.

There is one thing tho, the evolve is easier to dump.

Jon987 · June 19th, 2007, 09:52 PM

Thanks guys for the feedback. Will try the ECS twinset and 40lb wing. Thks all.

June 19th, 2007, 07:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jon987(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 10	Dirzone D12 Eurocylinders twin 12s- Wing choice ? Hi, Interested to hear from people who dive the Eurocylinders twin 12s, given its extra length over the ubiquitous and neck heavy Fabers, whether the 40lb provides the right amount of in-water support/balance to achieve horizontal trim? Interested to hear if the 40Lb explorer still cuts it with this lengther cylinder. Thanks Jon

June 19th, 2007, 07:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
wilbo (Online) Chimp 4 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 872	Quote: (Originally Posted by Jon987) Hi, Interested to hear from people who dive the Eurocylinders twin 12s, given its extra length over the ubiquitous and neck heavy Fabers, whether the 40lb provides the right amount of in-water support/balance to achieve horizontal trim? Interested to hear if the 40Lb explorer still cuts it with this lengther cylinder. Thanks Jon the euro cylinders (ECS) will trim out better than the fabers - as (as you suggest) they are better balanced themselves. The explorer 40 is fine with the ECS - as is the Evolve/Agir Brok 38lb/the Frog Midnight etc.. __________________ Cheers! Wilbo DIR explorers: DIR Yorkshire Divers: YorkshireDivers One of the Foxturd chimps

June 19th, 2007, 07:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,953	Yep, I use an Explorer and have no issues with trimming it out and with one stage and an SLR rig and heisers/heavy ECS, it provides me with enough buoyancy. __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

June 19th, 2007, 09:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Brian Allen(Offline) GUE Instructor Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London & Plymouth Posts: 593	Take your pick, it's very hard even for a very experienced diver to note the difference between an AGIR 38, an Explorer 40, or an Evolve 40 while diving. There is one thing tho, the evolve is easier to dump. __________________ ...dive planning again ... GUE fundamentals and Halcyon Equipment Online www.ocean-explorers.co.uk Last edited by Brian Allen; June 19th, 2007 at 09:37 PM.

June 19th, 2007, 08:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
Igor Beades(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Crazy Spain Posts: 119	I have been using ECSs with Explorer 40 for years (I meant ECS 12s @13,1 and 13,2 kilos) and they work fine for many people here, in Spain. I am curious about Agir 38 and/or OMS LGS45 pattern. Would like any input about these combinations. Cheers,

June 19th, 2007, 09:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jon987(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 10	Thanks guys for the feedback. Will try the ECS twinset and 40lb wing. Thks all.