Refitting Halcyon Inflator

RichieG · April 23rd, 2007, 05:15 PM

I've got hold of a new plastic Halcyon inflator and intend to replace the SS inflator on my Explorer.

looking at the installation instructions in the Inflator manual Halcon suggest the following:

"Using a room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone adhesive/sealant, lightly coat cleansed area of the inflator. If an RTV silicone adhesive cannot be found, a silicone sealant that is approved for aquarium use is an acceptable alternative."

Is this the same as the Silicone Sealant used when sealing baths, showers etc?

I'm intending to carry a spare inflator in the spares box - is the use of sealant really necessary?

Thanks

Richard

GLOC · April 23rd, 2007, 05:20 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichieG)

I'm intending to carry a spare inflator in the spares box - is the use of sealant really necessary?

Well Garf changed his last weekend, he didnt use any sealant and the inflator didn´t bubble last weekend and this one gone by.

Spiros Siouris · April 23rd, 2007, 05:56 PM

I've cleaned my inflators twice and did not use any sort of silicone adhesive to put them back, and there's no bubbles, leaks, etc... What I've made sure though every time is that the (two) tie wraps I use are the thick ones, and that I fasten them pretty tight. You would only need silicone adhesive if the rubber hose was larger in diameter than the inflator connection, so that it would fill any voids at the interface. Since that's not the case ie hose diameter is slightly smaller than the inflator end, there will be no significant voids at the interface and therefore you don't need to use any adhesive.

Spiros

david_1 · April 24th, 2007, 01:54 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichieG)

I've got hold of a new plastic Halcyon inflator and intend to replace the SS inflator on my Explorer.

looking at the installation instructions in the Inflator manual Halcon suggest the following:

"Using a room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone adhesive/sealant, lightly coat cleansed area of the inflator. If an RTV silicone adhesive cannot be found, a silicone sealant that is approved for aquarium use is an acceptable alternative."

Is this the same as the Silicone Sealant used when sealing baths, showers etc?

Richard

I dont think sealant is used, but if I did I would use the bathroom stuff that has a fungerside the fish safe one does not and would alow things to grow, not a good plan :-)

DAvid

Woz · April 24th, 2007, 10:21 PM

You don't need to gobbo it up but if you do, bathroom sealant is RTV (room temperature vulcanising) stuff.

If you want a new home for your old SS inflator then HELLO

TobinGeorge · April 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM

I would encourage users to follow the OEM's recommendations.

Having said that I would also caution to very sparing use any glue, or sealant on a corrigated hose.

I have, on more than one ocassion, found wings that failed to hold pressure because there was a small "sheet" of sealant that peeled off the elbow or inflator connection and ended up fouling either the OPV, or Oral inflate button.

We don't use any sealant on our hoses. The Thermoplastic elastomer used to make the hoses is a blend of polypro and rubber. Nothing sticks to polypropylene, that's what adhesive dispensers are made of.

We use two zipties with stainless locking tabs on each end of the hose.

Tobin

April 23rd, 2007, 05:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
RichieG(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London Posts: 78	Refitting Halcyon Inflator I've got hold of a new plastic Halcyon inflator and intend to replace the SS inflator on my Explorer. looking at the installation instructions in the Inflator manual Halcon suggest the following: "Using a room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone adhesive/sealant, lightly coat cleansed area of the inflator. If an RTV silicone adhesive cannot be found, a silicone sealant that is approved for aquarium use is an acceptable alternative." Is this the same as the Silicone Sealant used when sealing baths, showers etc? I'm intending to carry a spare inflator in the spares box - is the use of sealant really necessary? Thanks Richard

April 23rd, 2007, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 1,952	Quote: (Originally Posted by RichieG) I'm intending to carry a spare inflator in the spares box - is the use of sealant really necessary? Well Garf changed his last weekend, he didnt use any sealant and the inflator didn´t bubble last weekend and this one gone by. __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

April 24th, 2007, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Woz(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 246	You don't need to gobbo it up but if you do, bathroom sealant is RTV (room temperature vulcanising) stuff. If you want a new home for your old SS inflator then HELLO __________________ www.kitfondle.co.uk Lots of shiny diving tatt for you to spend money on

April 25th, 2007, 02:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
TobinGeorge (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 566	I would encourage users to follow the OEM's recommendations. Having said that I would also caution to very sparing use any glue, or sealant on a corrigated hose. I have, on more than one ocassion, found wings that failed to hold pressure because there was a small "sheet" of sealant that peeled off the elbow or inflator connection and ended up fouling either the OPV, or Oral inflate button. We don't use any sealant on our hoses. The Thermoplastic elastomer used to make the hoses is a blend of polypro and rubber. Nothing sticks to polypropylene, that's what adhesive dispensers are made of. We use two zipties with stainless locking tabs on each end of the hose. Tobin __________________ http://www.deepseasupply.com

April 23rd, 2007, 05:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spiros Siouris(Offline) New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 38	I've cleaned my inflators twice and did not use any sort of silicone adhesive to put them back, and there's no bubbles, leaks, etc... What I've made sure though every time is that the (two) tie wraps I use are the thick ones, and that I fasten them pretty tight. You would only need silicone adhesive if the rubber hose was larger in diameter than the inflator connection, so that it would fill any voids at the interface. Since that's not the case ie hose diameter is slightly smaller than the inflator end, there will be no significant voids at the interface and therefore you don't need to use any adhesive. Spiros

April 24th, 2007, 01:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
david_1(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: sussex Posts: 295	Quote: (Originally Posted by RichieG) I've got hold of a new plastic Halcyon inflator and intend to replace the SS inflator on my Explorer. looking at the installation instructions in the Inflator manual Halcon suggest the following: "Using a room temperature vulcanizing (RTV) silicone adhesive/sealant, lightly coat cleansed area of the inflator. If an RTV silicone adhesive cannot be found, a silicone sealant that is approved for aquarium use is an acceptable alternative." Is this the same as the Silicone Sealant used when sealing baths, showers etc? Richard I dont think sealant is used, but if I did I would use the bathroom stuff that has a fungerside the fish safe one does not and would alow things to grow, not a good plan :-) DAvid