Stage size

Ian S · November 30th, 2005, 01:35 PM

Hi all,

Looking at getting a stage. I don't do a great deal of deco at present but this may change as I grow more comfortable with it.

As it's my first stage what would you recommend from from the following ALI40, ALI80.

The obvious advantage of the 40 is size, while the 80 has more gas for me and the team and will be ok if I ever look at tech1 etc..

Suggestions please

fraser · November 30th, 2005, 02:13 PM

Ian,

As has been posted elsewhere get an 80 mate. If you are planning to do Tech 1 in the UK a 40 doesn't hold enough gas and an 80 with about 150 bar in it is a very nice bottle, certainly better in the water than a full 7 IMO.

80s are heavy to carry around out of the water but if you didn't like carrying heavy kit you wouldn't be diving

Cheers,

Fraser.

Ian S · November 30th, 2005, 02:46 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser)

Ian,

As has been posted elsewhere get an 80 mate. If you are planning to do Tech 1 in the UK a 40 doesn't hold enough gas and an 80 with about 150 bar in it is a very nice bottle, certainly better in the water than a full 7 IMO.

80s are heavy to carry around out of the water but if you didn't like carrying heavy kit you wouldn't be diving

Cheers,

Fraser.

Cheers Fraser

Seydlitz · November 30th, 2005, 08:23 PM

Hi,Not sure why Suddenly the Ali80 is all the rage..it is after all designed as a bottom stage..I dive an Ali 7 ltr as a Deco Cylinder and its great ..have no issues with it floats nice as you use the gas
All i'm saying its a tool in a box and shouldn't be discounted by a mere wave of a hand.

Best Andy

fraser · November 30th, 2005, 08:39 PM

Andy,

Is it a new 7 or one of the older variety? The new 7s are simply too heavy IMO.

And the older 7s are rarer than rocking horse poo

Cheers,

Fraser.

Ian S · November 30th, 2005, 10:02 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser)

Andy,

Is it a new 7 or one of the older variety? The new 7s are simply too heavy IMO.

And the older 7s are rarer than rocking horse poo

Cheers,

Fraser.

That's about the size of it, 7's seem to be in short supply. Lugging an 80 isn't my idea of fun either, I was initally looking at a 7 but as i say hard to come by it would seem.

Divingniknaks · November 30th, 2005, 10:26 PM

New ones are hard enough to get trust me !

In fact Reiki Steve got the last one I saw, that was a month ago

So an 80 it is then :D

Ian S · November 30th, 2005, 10:41 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

So an 80 it is then :D

hhmmmm mince mince mince mince mince mince....40, 80, 40 ...

*Clare Gledhill* · November 30th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Sandro has a great saying ...

"Your first ten stages should all be 80s"

Ian - if you plan to do Tech1 with AK, it's been said here before, but he will not accept a 40.

Divingniknaks · November 30th, 2005, 11:19 PM

Nah, I still think "Fabers are for Firemen" was better.

OK , a new sticky is required I think in "on a lighter note", entitled your favourite quotes.

Idea ?

Ta

November 30th, 2005, 01:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	Stage size Hi all, Looking at getting a stage. I don't do a great deal of deco at present but this may change as I grow more comfortable with it. As it's my first stage what would you recommend from from the following ALI40, ALI80. The obvious advantage of the 40 is size, while the 80 has more gas for me and the team and will be ok if I ever look at tech1 etc.. Suggestions please

November 30th, 2005, 02:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Ian, As has been posted elsewhere get an 80 mate. If you are planning to do Tech 1 in the UK a 40 doesn't hold enough gas and an 80 with about 150 bar in it is a very nice bottle, certainly better in the water than a full 7 IMO. 80s are heavy to carry around out of the water but if you didn't like carrying heavy kit you wouldn't be diving Cheers, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

November 30th, 2005, 08:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Seydlitz (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Never Far from a good Belgian Beer and a Crackwh*re Posts: 455	Ali 7s Hi,Not sure why Suddenly the Ali80 is all the rage..it is after all designed as a bottom stage..I dive an Ali 7 ltr as a Deco Cylinder and its great ..have no issues with it floats nice as you use the gas All i'm saying its a tool in a box and shouldn't be discounted by a mere wave of a hand. Best Andy

November 30th, 2005, 08:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Andy, Is it a new 7 or one of the older variety? The new 7s are simply too heavy IMO. And the older 7s are rarer than rocking horse poo Cheers, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

November 30th, 2005, 10:02 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser) Andy, Is it a new 7 or one of the older variety? The new 7s are simply too heavy IMO. And the older 7s are rarer than rocking horse poo Cheers, Fraser. That's about the size of it, 7's seem to be in short supply. Lugging an 80 isn't my idea of fun either, I was initally looking at a 7 but as i say hard to come by it would seem. Last edited by Ian S; November 30th, 2005 at 10:06 PM.

November 30th, 2005, 02:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser) Ian, As has been posted elsewhere get an 80 mate. If you are planning to do Tech 1 in the UK a 40 doesn't hold enough gas and an 80 with about 150 bar in it is a very nice bottle, certainly better in the water than a full 7 IMO. 80s are heavy to carry around out of the water but if you didn't like carrying heavy kit you wouldn't be diving Cheers, Fraser. Cheers Fraser

November 30th, 2005, 10:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	New ones are hard enough to get trust me ! In fact Reiki Steve got the last one I saw, that was a month ago So an 80 it is then :D __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

November 30th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ian S(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NorthWest - UK Posts: 62	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) So an 80 it is then :D hhmmmm mince mince mince mince mince mince....40, 80, 40 ...

November 30th, 2005, 10:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Clare Gledhill(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,547	Sandro has a great saying ... "Your first ten stages should all be 80s" Ian - if you plan to do Tech1 with AK, it's been said here before, but he will not accept a 40. __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

November 30th, 2005, 11:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Nah, I still think "Fabers are for Firemen" was better. OK , a new sticky is required I think in "on a lighter note", entitled your favourite quotes. Idea ? Ta __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com