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September 8th, 2006, 01:49 PM
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| New Member  Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Sweden
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 | Hi! Having read various positive comments about the relatively new Evolve wing, I wonder why anyone would consider buying a brand new Explorer wing these days? Are there situations when the Explorer is a better choice? |
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September 8th, 2006, 02:34 PM
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| Now with added JJ  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: .
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 | The Evolve is too long for Faber cylinders
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September 8th, 2006, 02:46 PM
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| New Member  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney
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 |  I tried one in the shop as I liked the idea of the donut however its a bit too long for 12L Fabers and my experience of Mk25 1st stages there is too much wing up the top for my liking & the hoses look cramped and all wrong. However if you started with an Evolve I'm sure this would not really be an issue They have some rental evolves on Twin AL80's with Apeks regs on and they look fine though
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September 8th, 2006, 03:53 PM
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| .  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lancaster, UK
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| The evolves don't look as cool... In my honest opinion. Besides which my old explorer, with old style inflator, has worked just fine for the last 3 years. Reinventing the wheel?
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September 8th, 2006, 04:09 PM
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| New Member  Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northern Ireland
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by Dibbler) I tried one in the shop as I liked the idea of the donut however its a bit too long for 12L Fabers and my experience of Mk25 1st stages there is too much wing up the top for my liking & the hoses look cramped and all wrong. Have to agree that the hose routing on ds4s is a bit cramped against the top of the wing but it can be done. There is a whole thread on the subject here!However if you started with an Evolve I'm sure this would not really be an issue They have some rental evolves on Twin AL80's with Apeks regs on and they look fine though I'm no expert but despite what I've said with the hoses I do like my evolve 40 I believe the extra lift at the base of the cylinders helps my trim and I can easily dump with the rear valve, something I've had problems with before. I use the longer euro DIRZONE cylinders and I believe there is a consensus that its the best wing for these. regards, steve.
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September 8th, 2006, 04:39 PM
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| New Member  Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belgium
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by NickB) The Evolve is too long for Faber cylinders I'm diving an evolve with fabers an haven't had a problem with this. It's a nice wing but on the other hand I haven't dives a explorer so I can't really compare them... |
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September 8th, 2006, 05:09 PM
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| Big Grin Syndrome  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Oxford
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| Quote: (Originally Posted by Dibbler) my experience of Mk25 1st stages there is too much wing up the top for my liking & the hoses look cramped and all wrong. However if you started with an Evolve I'm sure this would not really be an issue I guess I'm in the latter camp to some extent, but having gone from an Explorer to an Evolve with Mk25 first stages I've been really pleased with the hose routing. If there aren't photos online I can take some and post them early next week if anyone's interested. Having used both wings, I would make the same decision again to go with the Evolve; answering the initial question there are no reasons for me personally to get the Explorer.(I may be slightly biased as I also dive an Ecplise and like the standardising of both wings to the toroidal form). -Tim |
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September 12th, 2006, 10:13 AM
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| New Member  Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK
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| I have to say I really like the look of the old Halcyon logo on the old wings. Really made them look tough, rough and ready
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