Problem with AIR getting to my feet !!

kamyk · July 3rd, 2006, 12:50 AM

Hi,

I own a dry suit and wear Halcyon GATORS to stop air coming to my feet, however the fix up the problem a little bit, but air is still coming to my feet??

What could I do with that ?>?

kamyk

*JohnKendall* · July 3rd, 2006, 12:58 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by kamyk)

Hi,

I own a dry suit and wear Halcyon GATORS to stop air coming to my feet, however the fix up the problem a little bit, but air is still coming to my feet??

What could I do with that ?>?

kamyk

What kind of drysuit is it, and what kind of boots has it got? Also, what do you wear on your feet under the drysuit?

99% of the time that I see floaty feet problems it is due to poorly designed Drysuits, and the enormous great wellys that suit manufacturers insist of fitting.

Gators may help a bit, but if it is the boots inflating then the only real option is to get better boots fitted.

HTH
J

Rob Dobson · July 3rd, 2006, 02:20 AM

I had this problem and fixed it by changing my suit. New boots would be a better place to start, but only if the rest of the suit is up to the job...

There's a chap in the US that makes turbo sole style "socks" which you can have fitted to your suit. He makes them to order based on the outline of your foot.

caverkevin · July 3rd, 2006, 07:00 AM

I have to agree. Without more details, I would also guess the suit is too big. The bad thing about the gaitors is that gas can still get to your feet while wearing them. Sometimes it helps to hold the gas in the boots. I tired the gaitors on several suits I owned. Still had problems. Switched to suits that fit correctly, no more issues. Have not touched gaitors in years.

Cheers!!

Kevin

Crispy Fiver · July 3rd, 2006, 09:03 AM

Tim to get involved as this is a problem I have as well. What sort of boots would you suggest? Please can you supply a link if possible?.

Thanks

Jamie

Kevrumbo · July 3rd, 2006, 09:39 AM

I'd suggest checking your trim one last time before laying out another major expenditure on a new Drysuit as a solution. Are you tipping forward, or head heavy in your Trim? I have the same troubles when I use my Steel 95cf Twins, and I'm going to try utilizing a tail weight to hopefully solve both problems. . .
http://www.deepseasupply.com/page24.html

Jonathan · July 3rd, 2006, 10:06 AM

I have wellies on the bottom of my drysuit and to combat floaty feet I use these http://cgi.ebay.com/SCUBA-DIVING-DRY...QQcmdZViewItem badboys. It's a very snug fit getting into those wellies so there's no chance of excess gas going down to my feet. Just a suggestion that might save you buying a new suit.

Hope this helps

Jonathan

vid · July 3rd, 2006, 12:09 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson)

There's a chap in the US that makes turbo sole style "socks" which you can have fitted to your suit. He makes them to order based on the outline of your foot.

any details of who this is?
thx

vid

Rob Dobson · July 3rd, 2006, 12:16 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by vid)

any details of who this is?
thx

vid

Mark Owens (http://www.drysuitrepair.com/).

HTH.

*Clare* · July 3rd, 2006, 12:28 PM

I have a feeling that this isn't going to be a popular answer - but can anyone affected be sure that it isn't a technique thing as much as a suit problem?

I got 'gas in feet' issues when I started off and sorted it in the same drysuit with the same boots when I learned to better manage the suit on ascent. A hire suit I used a short time after had enormous boots - at least two sizes to big but was divable. Any time that I go seriously heads down (remember the center of gravity drill we learned) - down a passage or into a hatch I get gas in my feet - even with the turbo soles I have now. Gas there is not a problem - not being able to dump it is.

Slowly stretching out, dropping the feet (not the knees!) from the usual trim position lets air slip back up the legs into the shoulder area where it can be dumped.

Keeping ahead of the game is important too - if you let it get too far then you will have to go out of trim to get it out. Pushing your feet down may be difficult at this stage - and if you are shallow there will be a resultant buoyancy swing from the heads up move. Like all air movement in and out - slow and anticipatory is better than reactive.

July 3rd, 2006, 12:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
kamyk(Offline) New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: New Zealand Posts: 128	Hi, I own a dry suit and wear Halcyon GATORS to stop air coming to my feet, however the fix up the problem a little bit, but air is still coming to my feet?? What could I do with that ?>? kamyk __________________ www.cavedivers.com.au

July 3rd, 2006, 12:58 AM	#2 (permalink)
JohnKendall(Offline) GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,614	Quote: (Originally Posted by kamyk) Hi, I own a dry suit and wear Halcyon GATORS to stop air coming to my feet, however the fix up the problem a little bit, but air is still coming to my feet?? What could I do with that ?>? kamyk What kind of drysuit is it, and what kind of boots has it got? Also, what do you wear on your feet under the drysuit? 99% of the time that I see floaty feet problems it is due to poorly designed Drysuits, and the enormous great wellys that suit manufacturers insist of fitting. Gators may help a bit, but if it is the boots inflating then the only real option is to get better boots fitted. HTH J __________________ John Kendall http://www.amphibian-productions.com/diving GUE Instruction, Santi, Zeuxo and Halcyon Equipment NEW - Online Shop

July 3rd, 2006, 09:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kevrumbo(Offline) Sunda Strait 29Jul-04Aug Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles, South Santa Monica Bay Calif, USA Posts: 161	I'd suggest checking your trim one last time before laying out another major expenditure on a new Drysuit as a solution. Are you tipping forward, or head heavy in your Trim? I have the same troubles when I use my Steel 95cf Twins, and I'm going to try utilizing a tail weight to hopefully solve both problems. . . http://www.deepseasupply.com/page24.html __________________ "I shall never rest my head on my pillow in peace and quiet as long as I remember the loss of my American colonies." -King George III, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvn-bYVR2YI

July 3rd, 2006, 12:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Clare(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,930	I have a feeling that this isn't going to be a popular answer - but can anyone affected be sure that it isn't a technique thing as much as a suit problem? I got 'gas in feet' issues when I started off and sorted it in the same drysuit with the same boots when I learned to better manage the suit on ascent. A hire suit I used a short time after had enormous boots - at least two sizes to big but was divable. Any time that I go seriously heads down (remember the center of gravity drill we learned) - down a passage or into a hatch I get gas in my feet - even with the turbo soles I have now. Gas there is not a problem - not being able to dump it is. Slowly stretching out, dropping the feet (not the knees!) from the usual trim position lets air slip back up the legs into the shoulder area where it can be dumped. Keeping ahead of the game is important too - if you let it get too far then you will have to go out of trim to get it out. Pushing your feet down may be difficult at this stage - and if you are shallow there will be a resultant buoyancy swing from the heads up move. Like all air movement in and out - slow and anticipatory is better than reactive. __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

July 3rd, 2006, 02:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rob Dobson(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 690	I had this problem and fixed it by changing my suit. New boots would be a better place to start, but only if the rest of the suit is up to the job... There's a chap in the US that makes turbo sole style "socks" which you can have fitted to your suit. He makes them to order based on the outline of your foot.

July 3rd, 2006, 07:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
caverkevin (Online) Doing It Caverkevin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Boca Raton & Fort White, FL Posts: 473	I have to agree. Without more details, I would also guess the suit is too big. The bad thing about the gaitors is that gas can still get to your feet while wearing them. Sometimes it helps to hold the gas in the boots. I tired the gaitors on several suits I owned. Still had problems. Switched to suits that fit correctly, no more issues. Have not touched gaitors in years. Cheers!! Kevin

July 3rd, 2006, 09:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Crispy Fiver(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: London Posts: 122	Tim to get involved as this is a problem I have as well. What sort of boots would you suggest? Please can you supply a link if possible?. Thanks Jamie

July 3rd, 2006, 10:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Jonathan(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 215	I have wellies on the bottom of my drysuit and to combat floaty feet I use these http://cgi.ebay.com/SCUBA-DIVING-DRY...QQcmdZViewItem badboys. It's a very snug fit getting into those wellies so there's no chance of excess gas going down to my feet. Just a suggestion that might save you buying a new suit. Hope this helps Jonathan

July 3rd, 2006, 12:09 PM	#8 (permalink)
vid(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: london/surrey border, UK Posts: 356	Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson) There's a chap in the US that makes turbo sole style "socks" which you can have fitted to your suit. He makes them to order based on the outline of your foot. any details of who this is? thx vid

July 3rd, 2006, 12:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rob Dobson(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Oxford Posts: 690	Quote: (Originally Posted by vid) any details of who this is? thx vid Mark Owens (http://www.drysuitrepair.com/). HTH.