Miflex. 'Nuff Said.

Graham.Smith · September 27th, 2010, 02:04 PM

Most will know about my crusade on YD about Miflex so I am not going to go into detail here apart from to say that Saturday saw my FORTH HP Miflex HP hose go pop (on a 21m stage bottle).

I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so.

There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment; but this is it -

It is the First incarnation (design) without the strain relief. If you have these on your kit please think about swapping them out.

neilh · September 27th, 2010, 02:28 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham.Smith)

I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so.

I find it mildly amusing that having followed your posts you created enough doubt in my mind that I swapped mine out

You want some spares to replace the ones that have burst?

Graham.Smith · September 27th, 2010, 02:34 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by neilh)

I find it mildly amusing that having followed your posts you created enough doubt in my mind that I swapped mine out

You want some spares to replace the ones that have burst?

[Edit] Removed in the interests of Taste and decency [/Edit]

jimbob · September 27th, 2010, 05:03 PM

Quote:

There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment;

I saw it, I laughed, I almost swallowed my mouthpiece.
I've rarely seen such a complete and utter....want of sympathy. It was very amusing.

adrian.brown · September 27th, 2010, 05:21 PM

I would say Vobster quay has never witness such vulgarity coming from Graham after the incident happen, but this would not be true as Howard was their that day aswell

Hows that Dive Rite hose doing BTW ?

Michael-Fisch · September 27th, 2010, 07:25 PM

Yeah, but since they always break, and only under pressure - does that make you a S T R O K E for using them?
There is no such thing as DIR JUNK, it's either DIR or it's junk.

Using the first one was brave, using others after the first one died was stupidity! Nothing DIR in what you did.

Michael

Graham.Smith · September 27th, 2010, 08:14 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Michael-Fisch)

Yeah, but since they always break, and only under pressure - does that make you a S T R O K E for using them?
There is no such thing as DIR JUNK, it's either DIR or it's junk.

Using the first one was brave, using others after the first one died was stupidity! Nothing DIR in what you did.

Michael

I appreciate your sentiments Micheal, however, if nobody tried new products then we would all still be using ABLJ's and calling them "DIR".

Miflex HP hoses were, to me, particularly attractive on stage bottles due to their flexibility and ability to be bent back onto the first stage far easier than the rubber hoses.

We now know different. Does that make me a S T R O K E? I don't think so as I could say the same for several items of Halcyon kit that I have seen fail...should I (and everyone else) stop using Halcyon gear because an item has failed? I think not. However, when a design fault is identified and it continues to be a failure then that is a different matter altogether.

G

Howard Payne · September 27th, 2010, 08:23 PM

When Graham surfaced after his epic push on Vobster A Tunnel on Saturday - even the farm animals in the fields surrounding the quarry were pissing themselves laughing

Str0ke str0ke str0ke

Graham.Smith · September 27th, 2010, 08:32 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne)

When Graham surfaced after his epic push on Vobster A Tunnel on Saturday - even the farm animals in the fields surrounding the quarry were pissing themselves laughing

Str0ke str0ke str0ke

You can sod off too! Gimme my suit back.....being that it's a Str0ke suit you should not be seen in it......

Bob Cooper · September 27th, 2010, 09:07 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham.Smith)

Most will know about my crusade on YD about Miflex so I am not going to go into detail here apart from to say that Saturday saw my FORTH HP Miflex HP hose go pop (on a 21m stage bottle).

I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so.

There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment; but this is it -

It is the First incarnation (design) without the strain relief. If you have these on your kit please think about swapping them out.

Graham

What are those black things on the hose?

I have to say, looking at the photo that looks like a very poor quality hose fitting. I've not seen one of these close up before.

September 27th, 2010, 02:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Graham.Smith(Offline) MIFLEX DIR Did It Rupture Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 564	Most will know about my crusade on YD about Miflex so I am not going to go into detail here apart from to say that Saturday saw my FORTH HP Miflex HP hose go pop (on a 21m stage bottle). I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so. There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment; but this is it - It is the First incarnation (design) without the strain relief. If you have these on your kit please think about swapping them out. __________________ Sovereign Divers, Eastbourne BSAC 0513 - The BSAC Club where Hog Rigs are welcomed. [Shameless Plug] Liquivision XEN and XEO Batteries available at £4.50 posted. PM for details.....[/Shameless Plug]

September 27th, 2010, 02:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Graham.Smith(Offline) MIFLEX DIR Did It Rupture Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 564	Quote: (Originally Posted by neilh) I find it mildly amusing that having followed your posts you created enough doubt in my mind that I swapped mine out You want some spares to replace the ones that have burst? [Edit] *Removed in the interests of Taste and decency* [/Edit] __________________ Sovereign Divers, Eastbourne BSAC 0513 - The BSAC Club where Hog Rigs are welcomed. [Shameless Plug] Liquivision XEN and XEO Batteries available at £4.50 posted. PM for details.....[/Shameless Plug]

September 27th, 2010, 05:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
jimbob(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Sussex Posts: 281	Quote: There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment; I saw it, I laughed, I almost swallowed my mouthpiece. I've rarely seen such a complete and utter....want of sympathy. It was very amusing. __________________ Fried my little brains. Committed to excellence but having a torrid affair with mediocrity.

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adrian.brown(Offline) For Suex DPV's in the U.K Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Somerset. United Kingdom Posts: 765	I would say Vobster quay has never witness such vulgarity coming from Graham after the incident happen, but this would not be true as Howard was their that day aswell Hows that Dive Rite hose doing BTW ? __________________ Midlife dive crisis ???? Get a scooter alot cheaper than a rebreather and twice as fun........ To test ride a Suex in the U.K get in touch, more than happy to help out.

September 27th, 2010, 07:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Michael-Fisch(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 344	Yeah, but since they always break, and only under pressure - does that make you a S T R O K E for using them? There is no such thing as DIR JUNK, it's either DIR or it's junk. Using the first one was brave, using others after the first one died was stupidity! Nothing DIR in what you did. Michael Last edited by Michael-Fisch; September 27th, 2010 at 07:49 PM..

September 27th, 2010, 02:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
neilh(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Barnsley, UK Posts: 2,825	Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham.Smith) I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so. I find it mildly amusing that having followed your posts you created enough doubt in my mind that I swapped mine out You want some spares to replace the ones that have burst?

September 27th, 2010, 08:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Graham.Smith(Offline) MIFLEX DIR Did It Rupture Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 564	Quote: (Originally Posted by Michael-Fisch) Yeah, but since they always break, and only under pressure - does that make you a S T R O K E for using them? There is no such thing as DIR JUNK, it's either DIR or it's junk. Using the first one was brave, using others after the first one died was stupidity! Nothing DIR in what you did. Michael I appreciate your sentiments Micheal, however, if nobody tried new products then we would all still be using ABLJ's and calling them "DIR". Miflex HP hoses were, to me, particularly attractive on stage bottles due to their flexibility and ability to be bent back onto the first stage far easier than the rubber hoses. We now know different. Does that make me a S T R O K E? I don't think so as I could say the same for several items of Halcyon kit that I have seen fail...should I (and everyone else) stop using Halcyon gear because an item has failed? I think not. However, when a design fault is identified and it continues to be a failure then that is a different matter altogether. G __________________ Sovereign Divers, Eastbourne BSAC 0513 - The BSAC Club where Hog Rigs are welcomed. [Shameless Plug] Liquivision XEN and XEO Batteries available at £4.50 posted. PM for details.....[/Shameless Plug]

September 27th, 2010, 08:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Howard Payne(Offline) The Voices And The Becks Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London Posts: 2,141	When Graham surfaced after his epic push on Vobster A Tunnel on Saturday - even the farm animals in the fields surrounding the quarry were pissing themselves laughing Str0ke str0ke str0ke __________________ www.techdiver.co.uk Technical Dive Training With Howard Payne and Clare Pooley Eastbourne SAC 0513 Last edited by Howard Payne; September 27th, 2010 at 08:30 PM..

September 27th, 2010, 08:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
Graham.Smith(Offline) MIFLEX DIR Did It Rupture Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Eastbourne Posts: 564	Quote: (Originally Posted by Howard Payne) When Graham surfaced after his epic push on Vobster A Tunnel on Saturday - even the farm animals in the fields surrounding the quarry were pissing themselves laughing Str0ke str0ke str0ke You can sod off too! Gimme my suit back.....being that it's a Str0ke suit you should not be seen in it...... __________________ Sovereign Divers, Eastbourne BSAC 0513 - The BSAC Club where Hog Rigs are welcomed. [Shameless Plug] Liquivision XEN and XEO Batteries available at £4.50 posted. PM for details.....[/Shameless Plug]

September 27th, 2010, 09:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bob Cooper(Offline) "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 892	Quote: (Originally Posted by Graham.Smith) Most will know about my crusade on YD about Miflex so I am not going to go into detail here apart from to say that Saturday saw my FORTH HP Miflex HP hose go pop (on a 21m stage bottle). I know, I know, I should have swapped them out long ago......more fool me for not doing so. There are a couple on here who saw the offending hose and who may (or may not) comment; but this is it - It is the First incarnation (design) without the strain relief. If you have these on your kit please think about swapping them out. Graham What are those black things on the hose? I have to say, looking at the photo that looks like a very poor quality hose fitting. I've not seen one of these close up before. __________________ www.karstodyssey.com