Newbie Question on Vocabulary

Archangel · June 6th, 2006, 07:30 AM

What does "str(remove this)oke" mean?

I have seen it a couple times in DIR threads, I am assuming it means something like

!

My instructor MHK refers to divebuddies as "mates." My British bretheren and sistren refer to diving rigs as "kits."

Anymore vocab I should bone up on?

Dive safe, dive deep, dive DIR,

Tevis

dlegros · June 6th, 2006, 07:49 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel)

What does "str(remove this)oke" mean?

I have seen it a couple times in DIR threads, I am assuming it means something like

!

Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap

)

Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel)

My instructor MHK refers to divebuddies as "mates." My British bretheren and sistren refer to diving rigs as "kits."

Ah, a mate is a friend, a buddy is likely to be a mate, but not all mates are buddies (in fact , there is a brand of condom in the UK called Mates - may or may not be a buddy!)

Kit is just the collective term for your gear.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel)

Anymore vocab I should bone up on?

Dive safe, dive deep, dive DIR,

Tevis

Generally, or country specific lingo?

HTH

Dom

fraser · June 6th, 2006, 11:55 AM

Interestingly I think Mike Kane is the only American I have heard use the word "mates", it is British slang for friends. See also "chums".

We did trip Mike up when he was here by getting him to try to pronounce Aluminium though

He got his own back in the water

Fraser.

wilbo · June 6th, 2006, 12:02 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by dlegros)

Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap

)

Ah, a mate is a friend, a buddy is likely to be a mate, but not all mates are buddies (in fact , there is a brand of condom in the UK called Mates - may or may not be a buddy!)

Kit is just the collective term for your gear.

Generally, or country specific lingo?

HTH

Dom

LOL.. Dom you've made things soo much clearer now..!!

incoming..

Sterny · June 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser)

We did trip Mike up when he was here by getting him to try to pronounce Aluminium though

Irrelevant here, I know (well, unless we start needing really bright primary lights or scooters that burn nearly forever), but it's right up there with mispronouncing Nuclear for comedy value, isn't it?

Nuc-le-ar.

Not Nuc-u-lar. Arrrgh!!!

Joe Hesketh · June 6th, 2006, 03:19 PM

To be fair to our ‘merkin friends, it’s not a pronunciation thing. They actually spell it differently. Whatever your accent or intonation, “Aluminum” cannot be pronounced Alu-min-i-um.

For interest, they used to spell it the same as us but the guy who invented the first mass-scale production method chose this spelling in his marketing campaign in the 1890’s and it stuck. As the descendent of his company is now Alcoa (the largest producer of that metal in the world), who are we to complain?

If you want someone to blame, blame Humphry Davy, an Englishman who discovered the element and was so damn indecisive he went through three variations (including Alumium and Aluminum) in four years in an attempt to please a bunch of taxonomical pedants (again Englishmen) who complained that it didn’t match other elements that ended in “ium”. So he changed it, despite the fact that “Aluminum” is linguistically “correct” in that it matches the Latin root of its base (the mineral Alumina). It’s not correct though to say, as many US commentators claim, that the US chose the original spelling and stuck with it ever since.

Joe
(a pedantic Englishman

)

GLOC · June 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM

Thanks Joe, you learn something new everyday...

wilbo · June 6th, 2006, 04:46 PM

what!.. where do merkins fit into this?

and I will leave it right there.

Little Pete · June 6th, 2006, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap

)

Righto matey boy (and anyone else who is tempted). Using pink attachments to masks or other gear is not to be sniffed at and Mr. Kerslake aside, derogatory terms will not be permitted

PS: To anyone who has DIR 3, check out when JJ is being filmed by GI3 and mini mee. When he stops to make a tie off you can see his blue stage/drive bottle with PINK hose protectors!!!

Jonathan · June 6th, 2006, 05:19 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh)

To be fair to our ‘merkin friends, it’s not a pronunciation thing. They actually spell it differently. Whatever your accent or intonation, “Aluminum” cannot be pronounced Alu-min-i-um.

For interest, they used to spell it the same as us but the guy who invented the first mass-scale production method chose this spelling in his marketing campaign in the 1890’s and it stuck. As the descendent of his company is now Alcoa (the largest producer of that metal in the world), who are we to complain?

If you want someone to blame, blame Humphry Davy, an Englishman who discovered the element and was so damn indecisive he went through three variations (including Alumium and Aluminum) in four years in an attempt to please a bunch of taxonomical pedants (again Englishmen) who complained that it didn’t match other elements that ended in “ium”. So he changed it, despite the fact that “Aluminum” is linguistically “correct” in that it matches the Latin root of its base (the mineral Alumina). It’s not correct though to say, as many US commentators claim, that the US chose the original spelling and stuck with it ever since.

Joe
(a pedantic Englishman

)

I think that deserves a red blob. And the award for the geekiest post ever goes to....

- that proves I'm being satirical.

June 6th, 2006, 07:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Archangel(Offline) New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 19	Newbie Question on Vocabulary What does "str(remove this)oke" mean? I have seen it a couple times in DIR threads, I am assuming it means something like! My instructor MHK refers to divebuddies as "mates." My British bretheren and sistren refer to diving rigs as "kits." Anymore vocab I should bone up on? Dive safe, dive deep, dive DIR, Tevis Last edited by Archangel; June 6th, 2006 at 07:33 AM. Reason: the filter asterisk'd ** the main word out*

June 6th, 2006, 07:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
dlegros(Offline) 20% Ninja 80% Rebel Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 245	Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel) What does "str(remove this)oke" mean? I have seen it a couple times in DIR threads, I am assuming it means something like! Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap ) Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel) My instructor MHK refers to divebuddies as "mates." My British bretheren and sistren refer to diving rigs as "kits." Ah, a mate is a friend, a buddy is likely to be a mate, but not all mates are buddies (in fact , there is a brand of condom in the UK called Mates - may or may not be a buddy!) Kit is just the collective term for your gear. Quote: (Originally Posted by Archangel) Anymore vocab I should bone up on? Dive safe, dive deep, dive DIR, Tevis Generally, or country specific lingo? HTH Dom __________________ Dom I reject your reality and substitute my own DIR-RA

June 6th, 2006, 11:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Interestingly I think Mike Kane is the only American I have heard use the word "mates", it is British slang for friends. See also "chums". We did trip Mike up when he was here by getting him to try to pronounce Aluminium though He got his own back in the water Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

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wilbo (Online) Chimp 4 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 878	Quote: (Originally Posted by dlegros) Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap ) Ah, a mate is a friend, a buddy is likely to be a mate, but not all mates are buddies (in fact , there is a brand of condom in the UK called Mates - may or may not be a buddy!) Kit is just the collective term for your gear. Generally, or country specific lingo? HTH Dom LOL.. Dom you've made things soo much clearer now..!! incoming.. __________________ Cheers! Wilbo DIR explorers: DIR Yorkshire Divers: YorkshireDivers One of the Foxturd chimps

June 6th, 2006, 12:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sterny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The limpid tropical lagoons of Ealing, West London Posts: 550	Quote: (Originally Posted by fraser) We did trip Mike up when he was here by getting him to try to pronounce Aluminium though Irrelevant here, I know (well, unless we start needing really bright primary lights or scooters that burn nearly forever), but it's right up there with mispronouncing Nuclear for comedy value, isn't it? Nuc-le-ar. Not Nuc-u-lar. Arrrgh!!! __________________ "I thought I had a great idea today, but it never really took off. In fact, it didn't even get on the runway. I guess you could say it exploded in the hangar." - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes

June 6th, 2006, 03:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Joe Hesketh(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 658	To be fair to our ‘merkin friends, it’s not a pronunciation thing. They actually spell it differently. Whatever your accent or intonation, “Aluminum” cannot be pronounced Alu-min-i-um. For interest, they used to spell it the same as us but the guy who invented the first mass-scale production method chose this spelling in his marketing campaign in the 1890’s and it stuck. As the descendent of his company is now Alcoa (the largest producer of that metal in the world), who are we to complain? If you want someone to blame, blame Humphry Davy, an Englishman who discovered the element and was so damn indecisive he went through three variations (including Alumium and Aluminum) in four years in an attempt to please a bunch of taxonomical pedants (again Englishmen) who complained that it didn’t match other elements that ended in “ium”. So he changed it, despite the fact that “Aluminum” is linguistically “correct” in that it matches the Latin root of its base (the mineral Alumina). It’s not correct though to say, as many US commentators claim, that the US chose the original spelling and stuck with it ever since. Joe (a pedantic Englishman )

June 6th, 2006, 04:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
GLOC (Online) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Fleet, Hants Posts: 2,000	Thanks Joe, you learn something new everyday... __________________ Gareth Images of Life Photography DIR Team Foxturd Travels Underwater and Further Afar If you don't have the time to do something right, where are you going to find the time to fix it? - Stephen King

June 6th, 2006, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
wilbo (Online) Chimp 4 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 878	what!.. where do merkins fit into this? and I will leave it right there. __________________ Cheers! Wilbo DIR explorers: DIR Yorkshire Divers: YorkshireDivers One of the Foxturd chimps

June 6th, 2006, 04:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Little Pete(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 509	Quote: Pretty much - it's seen on the web a derogatory term used to describe a non-DIR diver, thankfully it seems to be dying quietly (unless you have a pink mask strap ) Righto matey boy (and anyone else who is tempted). Using pink attachments to masks or other gear is not to be sniffed at and Mr. Kerslake aside, derogatory terms will not be permitted PS: To anyone who has DIR 3, check out when JJ is being filmed by GI3 and mini mee. When he stops to make a tie off you can see his blue stage/drive bottle with PINK hose protectors!!!

June 6th, 2006, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jonathan(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 215	Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh) To be fair to our ‘merkin friends, it’s not a pronunciation thing. They actually spell it differently. Whatever your accent or intonation, “Aluminum” cannot be pronounced Alu-min-i-um. For interest, they used to spell it the same as us but the guy who invented the first mass-scale production method chose this spelling in his marketing campaign in the 1890’s and it stuck. As the descendent of his company is now Alcoa (the largest producer of that metal in the world), who are we to complain? If you want someone to blame, blame Humphry Davy, an Englishman who discovered the element and was so damn indecisive he went through three variations (including Alumium and Aluminum) in four years in an attempt to please a bunch of taxonomical pedants (again Englishmen) who complained that it didn’t match other elements that ended in “ium”. So he changed it, despite the fact that “Aluminum” is linguistically “correct” in that it matches the Latin root of its base (the mineral Alumina). It’s not correct though to say, as many US commentators claim, that the US chose the original spelling and stuck with it ever since. Joe (a pedantic Englishman ) I think that deserves a red blob. And the award for the geekiest post ever goes to.... - that proves I'm being satirical.