GUE open water ? ?

acqua · June 1st, 2006, 10:10 AM

I just come back from the dive ,and surfing on the net I've found this

it's is real ? . http://www.fifthd.com/events/view_en...&date=20060124

seems really interesting but I don't get how it's so cheap .

cheers

Richard

canucksubmariner · June 1st, 2006, 01:30 PM

pretty inexpensive, I'm surprised that the age is 12 and that acedemic is home study. Wouldn't expect that from GUE. Guess the need to compete with normal OW courses trumps.

**jb2cool** · June 1st, 2006, 01:48 PM

It says it's a GUE course but is it?

GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html)

canucksubmariner · June 1st, 2006, 02:34 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool)

It says it's a GUE course but is it?

GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html)

No but GUE has been threatening to have their open water course out this year(there are some postings on here by GUE instrs. about it), That being said I don't think (even if it says GUE) that it IS a GUE open water.

I'm sure somebody from GUE will clear this up shortly....

diver42 · June 1st, 2006, 02:36 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool)

It says it's a GUE course but is it?

GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html)

There was a whole dustup about GUE's "new" OW class a while back. I remember it was supposed to be two weeks; but I also thought there was more instruction.

In my opinion, most of the academics of all classes should be home study. You don't need someone to tell you most of that stuff. You can just read it.

I also remember the price was supposed to be someplace in the $1k USD range. Isn't there a thread arond here about it?

Edit: Just had a thought (it happens). Maybe the shop/instructors are using it like everyone else in the dive industry uses OW: as a loss leader. Lower cost doesn't need to mean lower quality if they can make it up in other ways.

*Richard Lundgren* · June 1st, 2006, 03:26 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by canucksubmariner)

No but GUE has been threatening to have their open water course out this year(there are some postings on here by GUE instrs. about it), That being said I don't think (even if it says GUE) that it IS a GUE open water.

I'm sure somebody from GUE will clear this up shortly....

Looks odd indeed, price does not compute nor does several other key points. If you look under schedule you can find the same class information but under another header.

Take care
Richard Lundgren

*Clare Gledhill* · June 1st, 2006, 03:32 PM

GUE Open Water Course requires....

Minimum age of 16
Eight FULL days on instruction encompassing 50 hours of instruction (both classroom and in water work).

Seems to me to be a PADI/NAUI course with a GUE tag and I would have thought that was slightly shaky ground. Terming a course DIR is one thing but I would think that GUE is a more protected brand...

ReikiMaster · June 1st, 2006, 04:20 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by canucksubmariner)

I'm surprised that the age is 12 .

Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days

Tricky · June 1st, 2006, 04:24 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ReikiMaster)

Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days

And even then it can be difficult...

NickB · June 1st, 2006, 04:39 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ReikiMaster)

Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days

They're too busy nicking cars

June 1st, 2006, 10:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
acqua(Offline) New Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maldives Posts: 17	GUE open water ? ? I just come back from the dive ,and surfing on the net I've found this it's is real ? . http://www.fifthd.com/events/view_en...&date=20060124 seems really interesting but I don't get how it's so cheap . cheers Richard

June 1st, 2006, 01:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
jb2cool(Offline) Padawan learner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bracknell, Berkshire Posts: 804	It says it's a GUE course but is it? GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html) __________________ http://jb2cool.bulldoghome.com

June 1st, 2006, 02:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
diver42(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 107	Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool) It says it's a GUE course but is it? GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html) There was a whole dustup about GUE's "new" OW class a while back. I remember it was supposed to be two weeks; but I also thought there was more instruction. In my opinion, most of the academics of all classes should be home study. You don't need someone to tell you most of that stuff. You can just read it. I also remember the price was supposed to be someplace in the $1k USD range. Isn't there a thread arond here about it? Edit: Just had a thought (it happens). Maybe the shop/instructors are using it like everyone else in the dive industry uses OW: as a loss leader. Lower cost doesn't need to mean lower quality if they can make it up in other ways. Last edited by diver42; June 1st, 2006 at 02:38 PM.

June 1st, 2006, 03:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Clare Gledhill(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,547	GUE Open Water Course requires.... Minimum age of 16 Eight FULL days on instruction encompassing 50 hours of instruction (both classroom and in water work). Seems to me to be a PADI/NAUI course with a GUE tag and I would have thought that was slightly shaky ground. Terming a course DIR is one thing but I would think that GUE is a more protected brand... __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

June 1st, 2006, 04:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
ReikiMaster(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Reading, Berkshire, UK Posts: 123	Quote: (Originally Posted by canucksubmariner) I'm surprised that the age is 12 . Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days __________________ Steve

June 1st, 2006, 01:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
canucksubmariner(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: GA Posts: 72	pretty inexpensive, I'm surprised that the age is 12 and that acedemic is home study. Wouldn't expect that from GUE. Guess the need to compete with normal OW courses trumps.

June 1st, 2006, 02:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
canucksubmariner(Offline) New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: GA Posts: 72	Quote: (Originally Posted by jb2cool) It says it's a GUE course but is it? GUE don't mention this course on their training page yet (http://www.gue.com/Training/Recreational/index.html) No but GUE has been threatening to have their open water course out this year(there are some postings on here by GUE instrs. about it), That being said I don't think (even if it says GUE) that it IS a GUE open water. I'm sure somebody from GUE will clear this up shortly....

June 1st, 2006, 03:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Richard Lundgren(Offline) GUE Instructor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 112	Quote: (Originally Posted by canucksubmariner) No but GUE has been threatening to have their open water course out this year(there are some postings on here by GUE instrs. about it), That being said I don't think (even if it says GUE) that it IS a GUE open water. I'm sure somebody from GUE will clear this up shortly.... Looks odd indeed, price does not compute nor does several other key points. If you look under schedule you can find the same class information but under another header. Take care Richard Lundgren

June 1st, 2006, 04:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tricky(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Reading, Berkshire Posts: 555	Quote: (Originally Posted by ReikiMaster) Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days And even then it can be difficult... __________________ "I know that you believe that you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you heard is not what I meant." "Make me one with everything" said the Mystic to the Hamburger vendor. Sigmastorm RPG - Play online now free! UK Diving Forum Sryth: A Free Online Text RPG Join the Adventure! Fallen Sword: Free online RPG

June 1st, 2006, 04:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
NickB(Offline) Always lowering the tone Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 350	Quote: (Originally Posted by ReikiMaster) Its the only way they can get people before they start drinking and smoking these days They're too busy nicking cars __________________ SnowHeads / BreastFriends / Free Money!