To Reel or not to reel..

wilbo · November 25th, 2005, 04:32 PM

.. that is my question..

I have a spool and a few different type of smb. fine. no problem with that.

Can I have a clarification on what type of reel people use and when they use them..

I find links that seem to contradict each other.. some say you can use a reel with an smb, some say spool only. some mention floaty line, some mention heavy line..

from what I have gleaned:
normally bag gets sent up from 21m upon gas switch (if a deco dive)
otherwise shallower.
reels are used as they are in caves, to lay a line from the shot - for example.

I guess what I am looking for is: the accepted make(s) of primary reel and when it is used..

thanks in advance..

*JohnKendall* · November 25th, 2005, 04:43 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by wilbo)

I guess what I am looking for is: the accepted make(s) of primary reel and when it is used..

Halcyon Pathfinder. Or the Salvo Equivilent, or the DIR-zone Equivilent (Phill?)

These are used to Lay line into any overhead environments.

They can be used for DSMB use, but we normally try to avoid it. If you can send a blob up with a spool, you should manage it with one of the above reels but since none of them have ratchets you need to be very carefull to lock the screw down if you ever want to let it go.

HTH
John

Divingniknaks · November 25th, 2005, 05:52 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by JohnKendall)

Halcyon Pathfinder. Or the Salvo Equivilent, or the DIR-zone Equivilent (Phill?)

Ta John, thought the Wh***dar was bleeping.

The Primary reels we do are the Salvo reel, http://www.divingniknaks.com/proddet...rod=30.100.400

Similar in operation to the Pathfinder, DIRZONE only do the Pathfinder (I have one here if you want).

Janos · November 25th, 2005, 10:03 PM

And in poor viz I hope

Not dead Janos

*JohnKendall* · November 25th, 2005, 10:06 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos)

And in poor viz I hope

Not dead Janos

Rarely. If the vis is that bad, then I call the dive. No point in trying to do a dive where you can't see anything.

Seeya
J

Divingniknaks · November 25th, 2005, 10:25 PM

John you may have missed Janos's recent twitchy escapade (told on another board).

So yes Janos , in poor viz. (But I'd go with John, why not call it ?)

DanE · November 25th, 2005, 10:41 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

John you may have missed Janos's recent twitchy escapade (told on another board).

So yes Janos , in poor viz. (But I'd go with John, why not call it ?)

I've had some cracking dives in low viz. You see things that you wouldn't ordinarily see, since you're no longer looking at the big picture.

However, that shouldn't stop you looking where you are going, or marking where you have come from

dan (the other half of Janos' twitchy escapade)

ellisn · November 26th, 2005, 07:37 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by wilbo)

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normally bag gets sent up from 21m upon gas switch

You want to watch this one mate, doesn't your cold water spool only have 20m of line?

Neil

wilbo · November 26th, 2005, 08:11 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by ellisn)

You want to watch this one mate, doesn't your cold water spool only have 20m of line?

Neil

closer to 30 - but thats why I asked the question - for deeper deployment, I'd get a larger spool/reel..

November 25th, 2005, 04:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
wilbo(Offline) Chimp 4 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 872	To Reel or not to reel.. .. that is my question.. I have a spool and a few different type of smb. fine. no problem with that. Can I have a clarification on what type of reel people use and when they use them.. I find links that seem to contradict each other.. some say you can use a reel with an smb, some say spool only. some mention floaty line, some mention heavy line.. from what I have gleaned: normally bag gets sent up from 21m upon gas switch (if a deco dive) otherwise shallower. reels are used as they are in caves, to lay a line from the shot - for example. I guess what I am looking for is: the accepted make(s) of primary reel and when it is used.. thanks in advance.. __________________ Cheers! Wilbo DIR explorers: DIR Yorkshire Divers: YorkshireDivers One of the Foxturd chimps Last edited by wilbo; November 25th, 2005 at 04:36 PM.

November 25th, 2005, 05:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Quote: (Originally Posted by JohnKendall) Halcyon Pathfinder. Or the Salvo Equivilent, or the DIR-zone Equivilent (Phill?) Ta John, thought the Wh***dar was bleeping. The Primary reels we do are the Salvo reel, http://www.divingniknaks.com/proddet...rod=30.100.400 Similar in operation to the Pathfinder, DIRZONE only do the Pathfinder (I have one here if you want). __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

November 25th, 2005, 10:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Janos(Offline) "Two Sheds" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Surrey Posts: 400	And in poor viz I hope Not dead Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed

November 25th, 2005, 10:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	John you may have missed Janos's recent twitchy escapade (told on another board). So yes Janos , in poor viz. (But I'd go with John, why not call it ?) __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

November 26th, 2005, 08:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
wilbo(Offline) Chimp 4 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon, UK Posts: 872	Quote: (Originally Posted by ellisn) You want to watch this one mate, doesn't your cold water spool only have 20m of line? Neil closer to 30 - but thats why I asked the question - for deeper deployment, I'd get a larger spool/reel.. __________________ Cheers! Wilbo DIR explorers: DIR Yorkshire Divers: YorkshireDivers One of the Foxturd chimps

November 25th, 2005, 04:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
JohnKendall(Offline) GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,097	Quote: (Originally Posted by wilbo) I guess what I am looking for is: the accepted make(s) of primary reel and when it is used.. Halcyon Pathfinder. Or the Salvo Equivilent, or the DIR-zone Equivilent (Phill?) These are used to Lay line into any overhead environments. They can be used for DSMB use, but we normally try to avoid it. If you can send a blob up with a spool, you should manage it with one of the above reels but since none of them have ratchets you need to be very carefull to lock the screw down if you ever want to let it go. HTH John

November 25th, 2005, 10:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
JohnKendall(Offline) GUE Instructor/DIRX Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,097	Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos) And in poor viz I hope Not dead Janos Rarely. If the vis is that bad, then I call the dive. No point in trying to do a dive where you can't see anything. Seeya J

November 25th, 2005, 10:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
DanE(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 11	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) John you may have missed Janos's recent twitchy escapade (told on another board). So yes Janos , in poor viz. (But I'd go with John, why not call it ?) I've had some cracking dives in low viz. You see things that you wouldn't ordinarily see, since you're no longer looking at the big picture. However, that shouldn't stop you looking where you are going, or marking where you have come from dan (the other half of Janos' twitchy escapade)

November 26th, 2005, 07:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
ellisn(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Swindon Posts: 89	Quote: (Originally Posted by wilbo) .. normally bag gets sent up from 21m upon gas switch You want to watch this one mate, doesn't your cold water spool only have 20m of line? Neil