DecoPlanner

alexmzz · April 8th, 2008, 01:37 PM

I'm thinking of buying the DecoPlanner 3.1.4 from the GUE site, I'm just starting down the road into deco dives. I've had a look at an earlier version from GUE and the deco plan it worked out was quite good, and also the way that you could change the deco format around to give you a different deco profile or allow for a different scenario. Any feed back on what other divers think of it would be appreciated?

Twinsetmad · April 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM

Have a look at decochek... its a full version free to 40 meters...

DecoChek Decompression Software : Welcome

Data · April 8th, 2008, 11:11 PM

Or how about HL Planner? it's a full version, no limitations and it's free.

Kevrumbo · April 8th, 2008, 11:51 PM

Save money, learn Ratio Deco here instead . . .not only is it more useful and easy to implement in your head at depth during a contingency where you have to recalculate your Deco Profile on-the-fly; but it's easy to pre-plan or re-plan a profile in certain circumstances where having laptop or PDA Deco Software is not practical (i.e. in a small outrigger bangka diveboat off the Luzon Philippine Coast during a rain squall in the South China Sea). . .

Meng_Tze · April 9th, 2008, 12:44 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Kevrumbo)

.... in certain circumstances where having laptop or PDA Deco Software is not practical (i.e. in a small outrigger bangka diveboat off the Luzon Philippine Coast during a rain squall in the South China Sea). . .

Hmm, would they have the standard gasses in those places? A good PDA can go for weeks, you can calculate your deco and adjust on the fly.... the ideal situation.

Kevrumbo · April 9th, 2008, 12:49 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Meng_Tze)

Hmm, would they have the standard gasses in those places? A good PDA can go for weeks, you can calculate your deco and adjust on the fly.... the ideal situation.

Yes and Yes: Standard bottom & deco gases are available; get your head out of the Cave once-in-a-while Meng Tze: there's a very beautiful Ocean out there. . . (and can a PDA withstand repeated inadvertent salt water dousings?)

alexmzz · April 9th, 2008, 01:57 AM

Thanks, I'll download them and have a closer look.

davetheshoeman · April 9th, 2008, 07:14 AM

G'day,

Use both. Make a plan with Deco Planner, check/modify with Ratio deco and then be prepaired to adjust on the fly if required.

I recommmend Deco Planner. While you pay, it also has other features that you will find you need later like Gas Planner. I have used HLplanner and V planner and found both of them both un-user friendly.

Using Ratio Deco you use your brain as the computer. It enables you to adjust on the fly if required and enables you to modify Computer or Table generated plans. I especially try to take advantages of 'Oxygen Windows' when decompressing so often shift some shallow deco into an oxygen window at 21m.

I do keep backup plans in my wet notes as a matter of course (no deco gas plans especially) and they have saved my arse a few times, even if the boat Captain chewed my arse of later for over exceeding my Run Time.

Either way, Safe Diving
Dave

Kevrumbo · April 9th, 2008, 08:07 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by davetheshoeman)

G'day,

Use both. Make a plan with Deco Planner, check/modify with Ratio deco and then be prepaired to adjust on the fly if required.

I recommmend Deco Planner. While you pay, it also has other features that you will find you need later like Gas Planner. I have used HLplanner and V planner and found both of them both un-user friendly.

Using Ratio Deco you use your brain as the computer. It enables you to adjust on the fly if required and enables you to modify Computer or Table generated plans. I especially try to take advantages of 'Oxygen Windows' when decompressing so often shift some shallow deco into an oxygen window at 21m.

I do keep backup plans in my wet notes as a matter of course (no deco gas plans especially) and they have saved my arse a few times, even if the boat Captain chewed my arse of later for over exceeding my Run Time.

Either way, Safe Diving
Dave

I concur . . .use Deco Planner as a sanity check for the first few Pre-Dive profiles you derive with Ratio Deco. (Except just borrow your friend's computer and Deco Planner software --no need to purchase it yourself!)

For Pre-Dive Gas Planning (and Blending as well), you can easily make a spreadsheet macro program for yourself in MS Excel.

But in the "field" (i.e. a bouncing wet bangka diveboat in the South China Sea), you've got to learn how to calculate these initial values & profiles by yourself. No laptop computer; No PDA; No Pocket Calculator --just wetnotes, a pencil, and good ol' basic manually applied four operator arithmetic. . .

alexmzz · April 9th, 2008, 10:08 AM

That sounds like pretty good logical advice, use them both; deco planner for planning the dive and know how to calculate the ratio deco for your back up plan.

April 8th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
alexmzz (Online) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	DecoPlanner I'm thinking of buying the DecoPlanner 3.1.4 from the GUE site, I'm just starting down the road into deco dives. I've had a look at an earlier version from GUE and the deco plan it worked out was quite good, and also the way that you could change the deco format around to give you a different deco profile or allow for a different scenario. Any feed back on what other divers think of it would be appreciated?

April 8th, 2008, 11:51 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kevrumbo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Segundo CA, South Santa Monica Bay, USA Posts: 133	Save money, learn Ratio Deco here instead . . .not only is it more useful and easy to implement in your head at depth during a contingency where you have to recalculate your Deco Profile on-the-fly; but it's easy to pre-plan or re-plan a profile in certain circumstances where having laptop or PDA Deco Software is not practical (i.e. in a small outrigger bangka diveboat off the Luzon Philippine Coast during a rain squall in the South China Sea). . . __________________ "Live never to be ashamed if anything you do or say is published [or posted] around the world --even if what is published is not true. . ."

April 9th, 2008, 12:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Meng_Tze(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK, SG, USA Posts: 91	Quote: (Originally Posted by Kevrumbo) .... in certain circumstances where having laptop or PDA Deco Software is not practical (i.e. in a small outrigger bangka diveboat off the Luzon Philippine Coast during a rain squall in the South China Sea). . . Hmm, would they have the standard gasses in those places? A good PDA can go for weeks, you can calculate your deco and adjust on the fly.... the ideal situation. __________________ ____________________ Homo Bonae Voluntatis

April 9th, 2008, 12:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kevrumbo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Segundo CA, South Santa Monica Bay, USA Posts: 133	Quote: (Originally Posted by Meng_Tze) Hmm, would they have the standard gasses in those places? A good PDA can go for weeks, you can calculate your deco and adjust on the fly.... the ideal situation. Yes and Yes: Standard bottom & deco gases are available; get your head out of the Cave once-in-a-while Meng Tze: there's a very beautiful Ocean out there. . . (and can a PDA withstand repeated inadvertent salt water dousings?) __________________ "Live never to be ashamed if anything you do or say is published [or posted] around the world --even if what is published is not true. . ." Last edited by Kevrumbo; April 9th, 2008 at 01:55 AM.

April 9th, 2008, 07:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
davetheshoeman(Offline) New Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Port Philip Bay Australia Posts: 91	Deco Planner & Ratio G'day, Use both. Make a plan with Deco Planner, check/modify with Ratio deco and then be prepaired to adjust on the fly if required. I recommmend Deco Planner. While you pay, it also has other features that you will find you need later like Gas Planner. I have used HLplanner and V planner and found both of them both un-user friendly. Using Ratio Deco you use your brain as the computer. It enables you to adjust on the fly if required and enables you to modify Computer or Table generated plans. I especially try to take advantages of 'Oxygen Windows' when decompressing so often shift some shallow deco into an oxygen window at 21m. I do keep backup plans in my wet notes as a matter of course (no deco gas plans especially) and they have saved my arse a few times, even if the boat Captain chewed my arse of later for over exceeding my Run Time. Either way, Safe Diving Dave

April 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Twinsetmad(Offline) New Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northampton Posts: 6	Have a look at decochek... its a full version free to 40 meters... DecoChek Decompression Software : Welcome

April 8th, 2008, 11:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
Data (Online) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 143	Or how about HL Planner? it's a full version, no limitations and it's free.

April 9th, 2008, 01:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
alexmzz (Online) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	Thanks, I'll download them and have a closer look.

April 9th, 2008, 08:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Kevrumbo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: El Segundo CA, South Santa Monica Bay, USA Posts: 133	Quote: (Originally Posted by davetheshoeman) G'day, Use both. Make a plan with Deco Planner, check/modify with Ratio deco and then be prepaired to adjust on the fly if required. I recommmend Deco Planner. While you pay, it also has other features that you will find you need later like Gas Planner. I have used HLplanner and V planner and found both of them both un-user friendly. Using Ratio Deco you use your brain as the computer. It enables you to adjust on the fly if required and enables you to modify Computer or Table generated plans. I especially try to take advantages of 'Oxygen Windows' when decompressing so often shift some shallow deco into an oxygen window at 21m. I do keep backup plans in my wet notes as a matter of course (no deco gas plans especially) and they have saved my arse a few times, even if the boat Captain chewed my arse of later for over exceeding my Run Time. Either way, Safe Diving Dave I concur . . .use Deco Planner as a sanity check for the first few Pre-Dive profiles you derive with Ratio Deco. (Except just borrow your friend's computer and Deco Planner software --no need to purchase it yourself!) For Pre-Dive Gas Planning (and Blending as well), you can easily make a spreadsheet macro program for yourself in MS Excel. But in the "field" (i.e. a bouncing wet bangka diveboat in the South China Sea), you've got to learn how to calculate these initial values & profiles by yourself. No laptop computer; No PDA; No Pocket Calculator --just wetnotes, a pencil, and good ol' basic manually applied four operator arithmetic. . . __________________ "Live never to be ashamed if anything you do or say is published [or posted] around the world --even if what is published is not true. . ." Last edited by Kevrumbo; April 9th, 2008 at 08:16 AM.

April 9th, 2008, 10:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
alexmzz (Online) New Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 66	That sounds like pretty good logical advice, use them both; deco planner for planning the dive and know how to calculate the ratio deco for your back up plan.