Book recommendations?

fraser · November 23rd, 2005, 09:11 PM

Hi all,

Getting seriously drawn into caves - I have read the staple Sheck books, and currently reading Taming of the Slough and Cave Diving Communications. Does anyone have a good recommendation for something a little more geological?

Thanks,

Fraser.

Rick · November 24th, 2005, 02:11 AM

Blueprint for survival....Sheck
Caverns measureless to man..Sheck
Beyond the Darkness...Martyn Farr

Spring to mind mate.....:D

***Bob Cooper*** · November 24th, 2005, 12:34 PM

The best book i've ever found about Karst geology is "Le Jura" by Michel Blant, published by delachaux et niestle. ISBN 2.603.01218.5.

It's in French. If you can find out where to get a copy, let me know because I'd like one too!

Bob

fraser · November 24th, 2005, 03:17 PM

Hi Bob,

Good to see you on the board, my French is not great and I think coupled with lots of technical terminology I might struggle with a French geology reference

Rick, I've read those Sheck Exley books, might see if I can get hold of Beyond the Darkness then.

Cheers,

Fraser.

Rick · November 30th, 2005, 09:41 PM

You could look at cave diving communicaitons also by the NACD....It's a little green booklet much like Sheck's blueprint!

*Clare Gledhill* · November 30th, 2005, 10:07 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rick)

You could look at cave diving communicaitons also by the NACD....It's a little green booklet much like Sheck's blueprint!

Superb book - well recommended - although I know Frase already has a copy.

fraser · November 30th, 2005, 10:18 PM

As Frase actually mentions in the original post

F.

Divingniknaks · December 1st, 2005, 12:43 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rick)

Blueprint for survival....Sheck
Caverns measureless to man..Sheck
Beyond the Darkness...Martyn Farr

Spring to mind mate.....:D

Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D

Ta

limeyx · December 1st, 2005, 01:05 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D

Ta

I just finished Beyond the Darkness and Farr's other one (forgot the name)

The earlier one is a good read, but a lot of it is dedicated to "bottom walking." The descriptions of the kit those guys had to wear/invent are amazing though! I found it a bit dated (the '90s section really felt like it was tacked on and could really do with some serious expandin).

Definitely worth the money though.

The newer book was not so good -- mainly focused on gear/training and not very DIR (although in a lot of places he starts of making a veiled slur on DIR "some people say" you should all have standard equipment etc. but it's a matter of preference, then later on in the chapter says "but it's a really really good idea to all have the same gear, or be streamlined/have good team communications" etc

Andy C · December 1st, 2005, 12:54 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D

Ta

Caverns Measureless to Man Sheck Exley ISBN: 0939748339
Darkness Beckons: The History and Development of Cave Diving
Martyn Farr ISBN: 0939748320

The Cave Divers Robert F. Burgess ISBN: 1881652114

They're the ones I manged to find on Amazon, strangely enough they're sitting in my basket.

Andy

November 23rd, 2005, 09:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Book recommendations? Hi all, Getting seriously drawn into caves - I have read the staple Sheck books, and currently reading Taming of the Slough and Cave Diving Communications. Does anyone have a good recommendation for something a little more geological? Thanks, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

November 24th, 2005, 02:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Rick(Offline) Jock Exley Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Falkirk/Stratford UK Posts: 730	Blueprint for survival....Sheck Caverns measureless to man..Sheck Beyond the Darkness...Martyn Farr Spring to mind mate.....:D __________________ Forget Everything And Remember http://phreaticzone.thedeepstop.com/ http://www.dublinbaydiving.com/

November 24th, 2005, 03:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	Hi Bob, Good to see you on the board, my French is not great and I think coupled with lots of technical terminology I might struggle with a French geology reference Rick, I've read those Sheck Exley books, might see if I can get hold of Beyond the Darkness then. Cheers, Fraser. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

November 30th, 2005, 09:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rick(Offline) Jock Exley Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Falkirk/Stratford UK Posts: 730	You could look at cave diving communicaitons also by the NACD....It's a little green booklet much like Sheck's blueprint! __________________ Forget Everything And Remember http://phreaticzone.thedeepstop.com/ http://www.dublinbaydiving.com/

November 30th, 2005, 10:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
Clare Gledhill (Online) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,540	Quote: (Originally Posted by Rick) You could look at cave diving communicaitons also by the NACD....It's a little green booklet much like Sheck's blueprint! Superb book - well recommended - although I know Frase already has a copy. __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

November 24th, 2005, 12:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Bob Cooper*(Offline) Moderator - "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 680	The best book i've ever found about Karst geology is "Le Jura" by Michel Blant, published by delachaux et niestle. ISBN 2.603.01218.5. It's in French. If you can find out where to get a copy, let me know because I'd like one too! Bob

November 30th, 2005, 10:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
fraser(Offline) "I'm only late on your timescale" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 463	As Frase actually mentions in the original post F. __________________ Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

December 1st, 2005, 12:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Quote: (Originally Posted by Rick) Blueprint for survival....Sheck Caverns measureless to man..Sheck Beyond the Darkness...Martyn Farr Spring to mind mate.....:D Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D Ta __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

December 1st, 2005, 01:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
limeyx(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 707	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D Ta I just finished Beyond the Darkness and Farr's other one (forgot the name) The earlier one is a good read, but a lot of it is dedicated to "bottom walking." The descriptions of the kit those guys had to wear/invent are amazing though! I found it a bit dated (the '90s section really felt like it was tacked on and could really do with some serious expandin). Definitely worth the money though. The newer book was not so good -- mainly focused on gear/training and not very DIR (although in a lot of places he starts of making a veiled slur on DIR "some people say" you should all have standard equipment etc. but it's a matter of preference, then later on in the chapter says "but it's a really really good idea to all have the same gear, or be streamlined/have good team communications" etc

December 1st, 2005, 12:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Andy C(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Harby, Leicestershire, working in Leeds Posts: 142	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D Ta Caverns Measureless to Man Sheck Exley ISBN: 0939748339 Darkness Beckons: The History and Development of Cave Diving Martyn Farr ISBN: 0939748320 The Cave Divers Robert F. Burgess ISBN: 1881652114 They're the ones I manged to find on Amazon, strangely enough they're sitting in my basket. Andy