Book recommendations? - Page 2

aki · December 1st, 2005, 12:55 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D

Here are the direct links:

- Basic Cave Diving: A Blueprint for Survival
- Caverns Measureless to Man

Also something to consider:
- Beyond the Deep: The Deadly Descent Into the World's Most Treacherous Cave
- The Cave Divers
- The Last Dive : A Father and Son's Fatal Descent into the Ocean's Depths
- Shadow Divers: The True Adventure of Two Americans Who Risked Everything to Solve One of the Last Mysteries of World War II

--
Aki

Teppo · December 3rd, 2005, 08:36 AM

Hello

A bit offline from the topic, but had few emails with Stefan Schiemann and he has few guides about caves in France

http://www.hoehlentauchfuehrer.de/

They are in german, but contain cordinats and etc

Regards

Teppo

Rick · December 3rd, 2005, 10:11 AM

Basic Cave Diving: A Blueprint for Survival
ISBN: 9994663372

Caverns Measureless to Man
ISBN: 0-939748-25-8

Dan T · December 5th, 2005, 02:19 AM

I vote for The Cave Divers by Burgess too. great book, it starts off a bit slow but works into it. From the begining with the expermental gear used, to some of the earliest explorations. Not to mention some of the problems that were hit head on, to overcome.

shishkabob · December 5th, 2005, 07:25 AM

www.audible.com has an excellent unabridged reading of Shadow Divers that's great for those long drives....

Bob

:D

lizardland · December 5th, 2005, 02:30 PM

Caves & Cave Diving by Guy de Lavaur is an excellent book. Makes you realise cave diving was invented a hell of a lot longer before George Irvine invented it

It's kind of a French Darkness Beckons. It's out of print but you can often find it in caving shops.

***Bob Cooper*** · December 5th, 2005, 02:53 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

Caves & Cave Diving by Guy de Lavaur is an excellent book.

Stuart

Is that who the "Salle de Lavaur" was named after at St George?

Did he discover it first?

Is the book in English?

Bob

lizardland · December 5th, 2005, 03:02 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bob Cooper)

Stuart

Is that who the "Salle de Lavaur" was named after at St George?

Did he discover it first?

Is the book in English?

Bob

It was indeed named after him. I can't recall if he actually found it or it was named in his honour. I'll have to have a shufty at the book tonight.

It is available in English if you can find it and well worth a read.

Joe Hesketh · December 5th, 2005, 04:13 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dan T)

I vote for The Cave Divers by Burgess too. great book[...]

Yup, it is a good read, though there is a lot of emphasis on diving caves purely to retrieve artifacts (or maybe that's a flavour of early US cave diving that isn't present here?).

Joe

Dan T · December 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh)

Yup, it is a good read, though there is a lot of emphasis on diving caves purely to retrieve artifacts (or maybe that's a flavour of early US cave diving that isn't present here?).

Joe

I think it was used for the motivation to get the states attention, for protection or awareness. I guess it could go both ways, depends on how you look at it. Similar of what mexico is going through/ or has gone through. Your people over there are very secret about things, much like the older divers here, from the original group. Understanding of the system and why it is the way it is, broke out so many questions, that needed to be known. i think in my personal opion it shows the explorer in only a few of us. Its a since of pride, to be honest i have no way of expressing it in words. But let me break the surface, i can talk about the dive for hours, sometimes days.

depending on who im with and what they did.
its only a matter of time, till it hits there. Not so much as the artifacts, because the technology/awareness is already there, but Exploration is our second nature.

December 3rd, 2005, 08:36 AM	#12 (permalink)
Teppo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 122	Hello A bit offline from the topic, but had few emails with Stefan Schiemann and he has few guides about caves in France http://www.hoehlentauchfuehrer.de/ They are in german, but contain cordinats and etc Regards Teppo __________________ Teppo http://koti.welho.com/tlallukk/

December 3rd, 2005, 10:11 AM	#13 (permalink)
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December 1st, 2005, 12:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
aki(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 63	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) Rick do us a favour and put up the ISBN's for these and I can see if Amazon have them. Ideas for Xmas pressies for me :D Here are the direct links: - Basic Cave Diving: A Blueprint for Survival - Caverns Measureless to Man Also something to consider: - Beyond the Deep: The Deadly Descent Into the World's Most Treacherous Cave - The Cave Divers - The Last Dive : A Father and Son's Fatal Descent into the Ocean's Depths - Shadow Divers: The True Adventure of Two Americans Who Risked Everything to Solve One of the Last Mysteries of World War II -- Aki

December 5th, 2005, 02:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Dan T(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange Park Posts: 128	I vote for The Cave Divers by Burgess too. great book, it starts off a bit slow but works into it. From the begining with the expermental gear used, to some of the earliest explorations. Not to mention some of the problems that were hit head on, to overcome.

December 5th, 2005, 07:25 AM	#15 (permalink)
shishkabob(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Dubai UAE Posts: 1	www.audible.com has an excellent unabridged reading of Shadow Divers that's great for those long drives.... Bob :D

December 5th, 2005, 02:30 PM	#16 (permalink)
lizardland(Offline) LCS Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Evidently Chickentown Posts: 631	Caves & Cave Diving by Guy de Lavaur is an excellent book. Makes you realise cave diving was invented a hell of a lot longer before George Irvine invented it It's kind of a French Darkness Beckons. It's out of print but you can often find it in caving shops.

December 5th, 2005, 02:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
*Bob Cooper*(Offline) Moderator - "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 696	Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) Caves & Cave Diving by Guy de Lavaur is an excellent book. Stuart Is that who the "Salle de Lavaur" was named after at St George? Did he discover it first? Is the book in English? Bob

December 5th, 2005, 03:02 PM	#18 (permalink)
lizardland(Offline) LCS Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Evidently Chickentown Posts: 631	Quote: (Originally Posted by Bob Cooper) Stuart Is that who the "Salle de Lavaur" was named after at St George? Did he discover it first? Is the book in English? Bob It was indeed named after him. I can't recall if he actually found it or it was named in his honour. I'll have to have a shufty at the book tonight. It is available in English if you can find it and well worth a read.

December 5th, 2005, 04:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
Joe Hesketh(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 659	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dan T) I vote for The Cave Divers by Burgess too. great book[...] Yup, it is a good read, though there is a lot of emphasis on diving caves purely to retrieve artifacts (or maybe that's a flavour of early US cave diving that isn't present here?). Joe

December 6th, 2005, 02:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
Dan T(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orange Park Posts: 128	Quote: (Originally Posted by Joe Hesketh) Yup, it is a good read, though there is a lot of emphasis on diving caves purely to retrieve artifacts (or maybe that's a flavour of early US cave diving that isn't present here?). Joe I think it was used for the motivation to get the states attention, for protection or awareness. I guess it could go both ways, depends on how you look at it. Similar of what mexico is going through/ or has gone through. Your people over there are very secret about things, much like the older divers here, from the original group. Understanding of the system and why it is the way it is, broke out so many questions, that needed to be known. i think in my personal opion it shows the explorer in only a few of us. Its a since of pride, to be honest i have no way of expressing it in words. But let me break the surface, i can talk about the dive for hours, sometimes days. depending on who im with and what they did. its only a matter of time, till it hits there. Not so much as the artifacts, because the technology/awareness is already there, but Exploration is our second nature.