Mexico Cave videos

*Clare Gledhill* · January 5th, 2006, 06:55 PM

Hi - someone (and I can't remember who) sent me a link to some fantastic video of Mexico caves a while ago - and I can't find it anywhere. They were on a site which had several videos - one was called wonderland I think...

Has anyone got any links.... or something similar.

LCF · January 5th, 2006, 07:03 PM

There's a wonderful video clip on the Scuba Guys site (http://www.scubaguys.com) -- go to videos, and watch the one entitled "AG's cave video from the Fifth D site". Beautiful photography, and great accmpanying music.

There's a short one on the Diablo Divers site (go to http://www.diablodivers.com/secondar...vern_dives.htm and click on video link) but it shows his cavern tour and the divers are not DIR.

I'll be checking this thread frequently . . . I already spend WAY too much time watching cave diving videos!

Gary Moffat · January 5th, 2006, 07:06 PM

I have a cracking surreal video clip of Chuck Mool -200MB!

I have tried to upload to teh video section but it’s just a tad too big, any chance upping teh allowed space for an upload?

**Alastair** · January 5th, 2006, 07:12 PM

Did you mean:

https://www.hogarthian.pl:439/?op=ga...x=paco_mex2005

Cheers
Al

***Bob Cooper*** · January 5th, 2006, 07:17 PM

Clare

Here's one of me and my friends in Mayan Blue, B tunnel.....

http://www.pvv.org/~olafb/dir-no/vid...anBlue-3MB.wmv

Not as nicely decorated as some Mexico caves like Nah Hoch, but it gives you some idea.

Bob

Edit: or you can try this link http://www.dir-no.org/index.php?id=24

LCF · January 6th, 2006, 06:58 AM

Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music.

Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you?

nadwidny · January 6th, 2006, 09:44 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by LCF)

Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music.

Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you?

Being new to the cave scene but with a few years of OW experience, I found that compared to other forms of diving (with the usual ambient light available), the ultimate darkness of a cave makes it possible to move the light around (slowly of course) quite a bit more than OW environments in order to look at the cave and appreciate the scenery and still maintain light contact with the rest of the team. If things go south I found it's much more obvious when one goes from "sightseeing" to "signal" mode.

Of course in order for this to work one can't be in a total exclusionary bubble and ignore what's going on outside their own little world. It's all part of becoming a "thinking diver" as Chris LeMaillot puts it.

***Bob Cooper*** · January 6th, 2006, 11:17 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by LCF)

Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music.

Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you?

Single file isn't a very practical way of diving, especially where the halocline ruins the visibility. Sometimes, the cave is small enough to dictate single file.

Remember that what you are seeing in video is not "real world". There is a guy behind the camera with twin 50W HID lights lighting up the cave, everybody knows they are being filmed and some shots are deliberately stage managed. The walls would normally be much darker when there are no video lights.

And yes, Brian is right on the money with the moving of the lights, you do that far more in cave and it makes it far easier to kep track of the person behind.

You kind of "tune-in" to people's style of diving after a few cave dives, and of course you talk about the dive afterwards.

Bob

January 5th, 2006, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Clare Gledhill(Offline) GUE Instructor Site Admin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 1,540	Mexico Cave videos Hi - someone (and I can't remember who) sent me a link to some fantastic video of Mexico caves a while ago - and I can't find it anywhere. They were on a site which had several videos - one was called wonderland I think... Has anyone got any links.... or something similar. __________________ Clare . "Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions....Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you too can become great." Interested in DIR dive training? Always happy to chat/answer questions so get in touch via PM or visit www.dirdiver.co.uk

January 5th, 2006, 07:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Alastair(Offline) DIRX Supporter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: UK Posts: 693	Did you mean: https://www.hogarthian.pl:439/?op=ga...x=paco_mex2005 Cheers Al __________________ Helium is our friend - GI3

January 5th, 2006, 07:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Bob Cooper*(Offline) Moderator - "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 680	Clare Here's one of me and my friends in Mayan Blue, B tunnel..... http://www.pvv.org/~olafb/dir-no/vid...anBlue-3MB.wmv Not as nicely decorated as some Mexico caves like Nah Hoch, but it gives you some idea. Bob Edit: or you can try this link http://www.dir-no.org/index.php?id=24 Last edited by Bob Cooper; January 5th, 2006 at 07:22 PM.

January 6th, 2006, 09:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
nadwidny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 117	Quote: (Originally Posted by LCF) Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music. Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you? Being new to the cave scene but with a few years of OW experience, I found that compared to other forms of diving (with the usual ambient light available), the ultimate darkness of a cave makes it possible to move the light around (slowly of course) quite a bit more than OW environments in order to look at the cave and appreciate the scenery and still maintain light contact with the rest of the team. If things go south I found it's much more obvious when one goes from "sightseeing" to "signal" mode. Of course in order for this to work one can't be in a total exclusionary bubble and ignore what's going on outside their own little world. It's all part of becoming a "thinking diver" as Chris LeMaillot puts it. __________________ Brian My crappy website - members.shaw.ca/nadwidny Last edited by nadwidny; January 6th, 2006 at 09:47 AM.

January 6th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
*Bob Cooper*(Offline) Moderator - "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 680	Quote: (Originally Posted by LCF) Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music. Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you? Single file isn't a very practical way of diving, especially where the halocline ruins the visibility. Sometimes, the cave is small enough to dictate single file. Remember that what you are seeing in video is not "real world". There is a guy behind the camera with twin 50W HID lights lighting up the cave, everybody knows they are being filmed and some shots are deliberately stage managed. The walls would normally be much darker when there are no video lights. And yes, Brian is right on the money with the moving of the lights, you do that far more in cave and it makes it far easier to kep track of the person behind. You kind of "tune-in" to people's style of diving after a few cave dives, and of course you talk about the dive afterwards. Bob Last edited by Bob Cooper; January 6th, 2006 at 11:19 AM.

January 5th, 2006, 07:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
LCF(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 622	There's a wonderful video clip on the Scuba Guys site (http://www.scubaguys.com) -- go to videos, and watch the one entitled "AG's cave video from the Fifth D site". Beautiful photography, and great accmpanying music. There's a short one on the Diablo Divers site (go to http://www.diablodivers.com/secondar...vern_dives.htm and click on video link) but it shows his cavern tour and the divers are not DIR. I'll be checking this thread frequently . . . I already spend WAY too much time watching cave diving videos!

January 5th, 2006, 07:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gary Moffat(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: East Lothian Posts: 120	I have a cracking surreal video clip of Chuck Mool -200MB! I have tried to upload to teh video section but it’s just a tad too big, any chance upping teh allowed space for an upload?

January 6th, 2006, 06:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
LCF(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 622	Bob, great video and again, wonderful accompanying music. Something I don't understand from watching all these videos -- and I am not a cave diver and nowhere near getting there yet -- is that the divers are single file, but they don't seem to keep their lights out in front of the diver ahead so that diver knows where they are. How do you keep track of your buddies in that situation, if you are shining your light right in front of you?