GUE cave

Danny · December 22nd, 2005, 04:06 PM

Hi,

Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ?
Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ??

Regards

Danny

Tricky · December 22nd, 2005, 04:09 PM

I've been told that there is no crossover from other agencies to GUE quals/courses. I enquired as I wondered if it was possible to do the TDI Entry Trimix course, followed by DIR-F and then crossover to Tech 1.

Mark Chase · December 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tricky)

I've been told that there is no crossover from other agencies to GUE quals/courses. I enquired as I wondered if it was possible to do the TDI Entry Trimix course, followed by DIR-F and then crossover to Tech 1.

There is no problem doing DIRF- Tech1 thats normal progression. The problem is TDI Entry level Mix straight into Tech2 I don't think they will let you do that.

TDI Entry level trimix is supposed to be a higher level of training than Tech1 because its only possible after decompression procedures and advanced nitrox. As a result its two stage deco with a limit of 60m. Tech1 is single decompression gas only.

ATB

Mark Chase

jluttichau · December 22nd, 2005, 04:32 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny)

Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ?
Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ??

Talk to your GUE cave instructor, it's been done before but you have to be very skilled to do it and pass the course. If you have no DIR cave diving experience I wouldn't count on it.i

Cheers
Jonas

*peter_steinhoff* · December 22nd, 2005, 05:01 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny)

Hi,

Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ?
Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ??

Regards

Danny

I would say it's not really an option because the foundation of all GUE cave training is done in the Cave 1 class. The Cave 2 expands on that by introducing complex navigation, stages and deco and refining what's been taught in Cave 1. The Cave 3 then further expands on that by introducing multiple scooters, extended range and exploration techniques.

So even if your skills are top-notch it could be difficult to jump right into the Cave 2 because you still don't know the GUE procedures for cave and there is no time in a Cave 2 class to go through things like that.

So in general it can't be done but if you are an accomplished cave diver there are provisions for that in the GUE curriculum, in which case you should contact GUE HQ for more information.

Peter Steinhoff

Teppo · December 22nd, 2005, 07:15 PM

Hello

This is actually the same limbo I am. Do to a some mix up with Tamara at 2000 I ended up at to NACD Intro-to -Cave
I also did full cave with NACD/NSS-CDS

Now I am looking some further training for cave and scooter instructors are few specially when Tyler Moon quittet teaching

Teppo

***Bob Cooper*** · December 22nd, 2005, 07:32 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Teppo)

Now I am looking some further training for cave and scooter instructors are few specially when Tyler Moon quittet teaching

Has he actually quit now? He said he was going to last time I was there.

Bob

***ericfine50*** · December 22nd, 2005, 08:19 PM

I believe he is now a commerical airline pilot.

wb416 · December 23rd, 2005, 02:33 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny)

Hi,

Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ?
Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ??

Regards

Danny

My buddy did that very thing successfully with David Rhea, but he was discouraged from doing so and told if after the first day of class he didn't show the necessary skills, class was over with no refund. No pressure there, eh? :p

So.... you have to be pretty sure of yourself if you want to try and can talk someone into letting you try.

Danny · December 24th, 2005, 09:28 PM

Thanks guys for your anwers !!!

Quote: (Originally Posted by wb416)

So.... you have to be pretty sure of yourself if you want to try and can talk someone into letting you try.

I'm always pretty sure about myself ,I've I whasn't sure about myself I never started with technical diving and certainly not cavediving.

What I'm going to do ,I don't know we will see

Thanks

December 22nd, 2005, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Danny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 77	GUE cave Hi, Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ? Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ?? Regards Danny

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December 22nd, 2005, 05:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
peter_steinhoff(Offline) Instructor candidate Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sweden & Florida Posts: 205	Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny) Hi, Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ? Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ?? Regards Danny I would say it's not really an option because the foundation of all GUE cave training is done in the Cave 1 class. The Cave 2 expands on that by introducing complex navigation, stages and deco and refining what's been taught in Cave 1. The Cave 3 then further expands on that by introducing multiple scooters, extended range and exploration techniques. So even if your skills are top-notch it could be difficult to jump right into the Cave 2 because you still don't know the GUE procedures for cave and there is no time in a Cave 2 class to go through things like that. So in general it can't be done but if you are an accomplished cave diver there are provisions for that in the GUE curriculum, in which case you should contact GUE HQ for more information. Peter Steinhoff __________________ Peter Steinhoff GUE DIR-F, Tech1, Tech2, Cave1, Cave2, Cave3, RB80-1&2, DIR-F/Cave Instructor Candidate. NAUI Tec Instructor (Trimix, Technical DPV, Technical Wreck Penenetration etc) WKPP Support Diver, Halcyon Product Development Team, Gavinscooter Representative. Various IANTD, NSS-CDS, NACD, PADI & NAUI. ---------------------------------------------- http://dir-diver.com http://peter.steinhoff.se (swedish only)

December 22nd, 2005, 07:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
Teppo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 116	Hello This is actually the same limbo I am. Do to a some mix up with Tamara at 2000 I ended up at to NACD Intro-to -Cave I also did full cave with NACD/NSS-CDS Now I am looking some further training for cave and scooter instructors are few specially when Tyler Moon quittet teaching Teppo __________________ Teppo http://koti.welho.com/tlallukk/

December 23rd, 2005, 02:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
wb416(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NW Ohio Posts: 25	Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny) Hi, Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ? Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ?? Regards Danny My buddy did that very thing successfully with David Rhea, but he was discouraged from doing so and told if after the first day of class he didn't show the necessary skills, class was over with no refund. No pressure there, eh? :p So.... you have to be pretty sure of yourself if you want to try and can talk someone into letting you try. __________________ *********************** Bob Overstreet wb's Website Zendiving Scuba Forum

December 22nd, 2005, 04:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kent England Posts: 905	Quote: (Originally Posted by Tricky) I've been told that there is no crossover from other agencies to GUE quals/courses. I enquired as I wondered if it was possible to do the TDI Entry Trimix course, followed by DIR-F and then crossover to Tech 1. There is no problem doing DIRF- Tech1 thats normal progression. The problem is TDI Entry level Mix straight into Tech2 I don't think they will let you do that. TDI Entry level trimix is supposed to be a higher level of training than Tech1 because its only possible after decompression procedures and advanced nitrox. As a result its two stage deco with a limit of 60m. Tech1 is single decompression gas only. ATB Mark Chase

December 22nd, 2005, 04:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
jluttichau(Offline) Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 437	Quote: (Originally Posted by Danny) Is it possible when you already have a cave certificate from IANTD to do the continuation course Cave 2 By GUE ? Maybe the differences between the two courses is to big ?? Talk to your GUE cave instructor, it's been done before but you have to be very skilled to do it and pass the course. If you have no DIR cave diving experience I wouldn't count on it.i Cheers Jonas

December 22nd, 2005, 07:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
*Bob Cooper*(Offline) Moderator - "Don't stop me now!" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South East London, UK Posts: 680	Quote: (Originally Posted by Teppo) Now I am looking some further training for cave and scooter instructors are few specially when Tyler Moon quittet teaching Has he actually quit now? He said he was going to last time I was there. Bob

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*ericfine50*(Offline) Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MA Posts: 622	I believe he is now a commerical airline pilot.

December 24th, 2005, 09:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
Danny(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 77	Thanks guys for your anwers !!! Quote: (Originally Posted by wb416) So.... you have to be pretty sure of yourself if you want to try and can talk someone into letting you try. I'm always pretty sure about myself ,I've I whasn't sure about myself I never started with technical diving and certainly not cavediving. What I'm going to do ,I don't know we will see Thanks