New videos from Lot/Dordgone

MTBiker78 · May 31st, 2006, 12:20 PM

On our web site www.stajniakleina.pl on WYJAZDY-Video tab you can find first part of new videos from May Lot/Dordgone trip (this includes Truffe, St George, Trou Madame caves)

Best Regards
Luc

Teppo · June 1st, 2006, 01:05 PM

Cool videos, the best shots from outside Trout Madame I have ever see

T

Divingniknaks · June 2nd, 2006, 12:50 AM

Christ that looks tight, credit to you.

On a nother note , was that a Bernese Mountain Dog at the beginning ?

Sorry for the sidetrack.

MTBiker78 · June 2nd, 2006, 10:23 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks)

On a nother note , was that a Bernese Mountain Dog at the beginning ?

Yes it is :-)

Regards
Lucas

P.S
By the way ...
This trip makes me think about how to make sidemount harness

backplate and stages are not 'optimal' configuration

davy · June 2nd, 2006, 11:51 AM

I tried some bungee loops on the plate before to pull the tanks tighter under your armpits and put them a little lower on your body.
Sort of like it is done on the armadillo side mount harness.
http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com/armadillo.html
Then clip the tails of the ALU tanks to your butt D-ring when full and to the crotch D-ring when empty to keep them level with your body.

For caves like truffe where only the entrance was small and you could swim the rest I also jammed a small single tank wing between a second Backplate to keep it from floating up. that way you have some means of buoyancy and don't need to trim on the dry suit.
I used a pioneer 27lb for this, and it seems to give ~5-6kg of lift this way which is just enough for 2 AL80 tanks.

Better, but still not perfect... a backplate is also to rigid for when it really gets tight.
But then... 99% of the places where you actually *need* side-mount, I don't really want to dive

(Belgian sumps for example)

And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles...

MTBiker78 · June 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by davy)

Better, but still not perfect... a backplate is also to rigid for when it really gets tight.
But then... 99% of the places where you actually *need* side-mount, I don't really want to dive

(Belgian sumps for example)

And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles...

Thanks for all Your ideas - on forum and on PM

Best Regards
Lucas

laphiloche · June 2nd, 2006, 12:46 PM

"And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles..."
Cave divers who explorate Font del truffe do it with backmount and they are stop in the sump 12. You could enter with twin 20l ( a lose harnes and crotch strap open is better). The real problem are the over heat in the dry suit and the risk to cut it.
The video is perfect! Nice job

MTBiker78 · June 2nd, 2006, 12:54 PM

in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport

in truffe between sumps (however water level was quite high) and in trou madame from park place to enterance.

Truffe is now digged and there is no problem to swim in with doubles on your back.

Best Regards
Lucas

laphiloche · June 2nd, 2006, 01:01 PM

"in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport"
Trou madame is a nice cave for scootering , but a bad place for carry a scooter to the water.
For the video how many light do you have ? Which power ?
best

MTBiker78 · June 2nd, 2006, 01:31 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by laphiloche)

"in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport"
Trou madame is a nice cave for scootering , but a bad place for carry a scooter to the water.
For the video how many light do you have ? Which power ?
best

True in both cases (dpv & carry it to the water

)
Slawek is using Halcyon 2*50W HID lights

Regards
Lucas

May 31st, 2006, 12:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
MTBiker78(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 13	New videos from Lot/Dordgone On our web site www.stajniakleina.pl on WYJAZDY-Video tab you can find first part of new videos from May Lot/Dordgone trip (this includes Truffe, St George, Trou Madame caves) Best Regards Luc Last edited by MTBiker78; May 31st, 2006 at 12:55 PM.

June 1st, 2006, 01:05 PM	#2 (permalink)
Teppo(Offline) New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 116	Cool videos, the best shots from outside Trout Madame I have ever see T __________________ Teppo http://koti.welho.com/tlallukk/

June 2nd, 2006, 12:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Divingniknaks(Offline) Resident purveyor of shiney kit.... Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 1,038	Christ that looks tight, credit to you. On a nother note , was that a Bernese Mountain Dog at the beginning ? Sorry for the sidetrack. __________________ Phill ----------------------------- Salvo Lights, DirZone Gear , Frog Wings Dive ? http://www.divingniknaks.com

June 2nd, 2006, 10:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
MTBiker78(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 13	Quote: (Originally Posted by Divingniknaks) On a nother note , was that a Bernese Mountain Dog at the beginning ? Yes it is :-) Regards Lucas P.S By the way ... This trip makes me think about how to make sidemount harness backplate and stages are not 'optimal' configuration

June 2nd, 2006, 11:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
davy(Offline) DIveR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 275	I tried some bungee loops on the plate before to pull the tanks tighter under your armpits and put them a little lower on your body. Sort of like it is done on the armadillo side mount harness. http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com/armadillo.html Then clip the tails of the ALU tanks to your butt D-ring when full and to the crotch D-ring when empty to keep them level with your body. For caves like truffe where only the entrance was small and you could swim the rest I also jammed a small single tank wing between a second Backplate to keep it from floating up. that way you have some means of buoyancy and don't need to trim on the dry suit. I used a pioneer 27lb for this, and it seems to give ~5-6kg of lift this way which is just enough for 2 AL80 tanks. Better, but still not perfect... a backplate is also to rigid for when it really gets tight. But then... 99% of the places where you actually need side-mount, I don't really want to dive (Belgian sumps for example) And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles...

June 2nd, 2006, 12:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
MTBiker78(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 13	Quote: (Originally Posted by davy) Better, but still not perfect... a backplate is also to rigid for when it really gets tight. But then... 99% of the places where you actually need side-mount, I don't really want to dive (Belgian sumps for example) And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles... Thanks for all Your ideas - on forum and on PM Best Regards Lucas

June 2nd, 2006, 12:46 PM	#7 (permalink)
laphiloche(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: france Posts: 6	"And I would dive truffe in side-mount only to progress to sump 3 since it is almost impossible to scale the end of sump 2 in backmounted doubles..." Cave divers who explorate Font del truffe do it with backmount and they are stop in the sump 12. You could enter with twin 20l ( a lose harnes and crotch strap open is better). The real problem are the over heat in the dry suit and the risk to cut it. The video is perfect! Nice job

June 2nd, 2006, 12:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
MTBiker78(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 13	in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport in truffe between sumps (however water level was quite high) and in trou madame from park place to enterance. Truffe is now digged and there is no problem to swim in with doubles on your back. Best Regards Lucas

June 2nd, 2006, 01:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
laphiloche(Offline) New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: france Posts: 6	"in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport" Trou madame is a nice cave for scootering , but a bad place for carry a scooter to the water. For the video how many light do you have ? Which power ? best

June 2nd, 2006, 01:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
MTBiker78(Offline) New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warsaw, Poland Posts: 13	Quote: (Originally Posted by laphiloche) "in both cases we choose sidemount cause of easiness of transport" Trou madame is a nice cave for scootering , but a bad place for carry a scooter to the water. For the video how many light do you have ? Which power ? best True in both cases (dpv & carry it to the water ) Slawek is using Halcyon 2*50W HID lights Regards Lucas