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Old April 27th, 2006, 10:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Cave Diving Australia vs Cave Diving USA

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Just asking why by having CDAA Cave Rated, its possbile to dive in any caves in the world. But Cave 2 GUE do not allow to dive at cave sites in Australia ??


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Old April 27th, 2006, 11:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It may well be that the CDAA have negotiated access with landowners. In the UK the CDG negotiates access arrangements with many private site owners so thereby you have to be a member to gain access. This is more than just a qualification/training issue, membership includes liability insurance which a lot of private site owners ask for. It also ensures an element of control over who is diving there, many sites can be quite sensitive and cannot support too many divers visiting (commercial showcaves, drinking water resources, agricultural land, some fragile features, etc) Perhaps this is a similar situation to the CDAA?
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Heheh :d That's all right with me :D However, Is it true that - to dive caves in Europe - no special traning is requried ?? Open Water will do ??


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Quote: (Originally Posted by kamyk)
Heheh :d That's all right with me :D However, Is it true that - to dive caves in Europe - no special traning is requried ?? Open Water will do ??


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Special training IS REQUIRED for your own safety.
In many countries there is no formal requirement to be cave cerified
In some countries its not allowed at all, or restricted with environment protection laws

Another issue is insurance and liability cover....

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MTBiker78 nice to see you on the forum :D hehe

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Is it true that - to dive caves in Europe - no special traning is requried ?? Open Water will do ??
Are you serious?

Europe is much different from the US, as far as I know there are no cave diving sites where you have to pay to get in. There is nobody to check your certifications at the entrance gate. It doesn't mean that you don't need cave training.
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Are you serious?

Europe is much different from the US, as far as I know there are no cave diving sites where you have to pay to get in. There is nobody to check your certifications at the entrance gate. It doesn't mean that you don't need cave training.

Hi,

But in South Australia most cave site are owned by someone :D I know its dodgy but, look better than nothing !! While you with CDAA, there is a memebership to be paid every year $80US. And that allow CDAA to make diving sites better, for divers: platforms etc ... and that's fair enought. When most caves are own by landowner's, thats good that the allow us divers to use them ... its very kind from them !!



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